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Miroslav Imbrisevic

6 Feb, 11 tweets, 3 min read

New group within the Labour Party, fighting transphobia:

labourtransequality.org.uk/the-definition…

Defining Transphobia in the Labour Party A Consultation: Responses should be sent in confidence to admin@labourtransequality.org.uk by 1st March 2021

Would be good to send them your views - I will

'Some people may have transitioned from expressing themselves in their birth sex into living in their preferred gender identity while others have not. This is a personal decision which is acknowledged in the Equality 2010 and Gender Recognition Acts 2004.' Wrong! The GRA...

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prescribes that you must live in your preferred gender for two years, before applying for a Gender Recognition Certificate.

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Highly dubious statement (where is the scientific evidence?). And why are so many girls 'discovering' that they are trans in puberty?

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Here comes the fun bit:
'Defining Expression of Transphobia In the Labour Party'

'1. Denying the existence of trans people' --- Nobody is denying that trans people exist - this is a misrespresentation - and childish.

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'and campaigning against trans people’s human and civil rights like public services is transphobic.' This is just confused. Excluding transpeople from certain services can be lawful (Explanatory Notes to EA, p. 157). Protecting theses exemptions doesn't affect human/civil rights.

'6. Claiming there is a “conflict” between trans people’s rights and women’s or other communities’ rights is transphobic.' The exemptions in the Equality Act are presupposing a rights' clash. This Act balances the competing rights of women and transwomen. Is the EA 'transphobic'?

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'8. Failure to include trans people at all levels and structures of decision making within the Labour Party and is movement is institutionally transphobic and exclusionary.'

This goes for everyone (women, BAME) not just for trans people.

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'10. There are good and bad people in all communities.' This is a deflection of the real problem. E.g., sexual violence by transwomen prisoners in a women's prison is not primarily about good or bad people, it's an institutional failure. Female prisoners should be protected...

...from transwomen prisoners, particularly if these have a history of violence against women.

'11. Trans people should be able to stand for public office without discrimination and without fear of hatred.' Sure, but not on women-only short lists, where they displace women.

'No. 13 Misrepresenting what trans people say or do, because you don’t understand it is transphobic.' This assumes that if you disagree, then you don't understand. It is also one-sided (assumes infallibility?). One principle of justice is: Listen to the other side. Ditto No. 14

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THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK:
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sites.google.com/view/trans-phi…

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docs.google.com/document/d/12Q…

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