@meghan_daum was super nice to invite @FilippaLentzos and I on her podcast this week. It's going to be released tomorrow night or you can join Patreon to listen now.

In the podcast, we get into why it's been so challenging to talk about Covid-19 possibly originating from a lab..
I really loved the group podcast style because I learnt so much from @FilippaLentzos who is 100% eloquent in explaining what is happening in the big picture - geopolitically - and @meghan_daum who is extremely skillful at asking us the key questions the public wants answers to.
Being unable to talk about #laborigins without being attacked (even by your friends) has been a problem for both scientists and journalists since the start of this pandemic.

A lot of journalists say that scientists refused to go public with suspicions of Covid-19 lab leak...
... and a lot of scientists were and still are afraid to say that they think lab leak is plausible or as likely (or even more likely) than a natural origin of Covid-19.

As we speak, people are fighting about whether we can say lab leak hypothesis "has legs"...
Because somehow we can say sinophobic things like Chinese people treat animals horribly, traffic seriously endangered animals that carry diseases, but we can't talk about lab accidents, which happen around the world any time. This time it was Wuhan. Next time could be your city.
Somehow, for natural origins, the only evidence you need is "it happened before" - and then you can speculate about direct bat>human transmission and a variety of intermediate hosts, and a high speed train to Wuhan.

But for lab origins, you better have a thesis + defense ready.

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More from @Ayjchan

7 Feb
Public service: This is now the link to the archived Fact Sheet released by the previous State Department concerning activities at the Wuhan Institute of Virology that could point to possible #laborigins of the covid-19 virus.
2017-2021.state.gov/fact-sheet-act…
@washingtonpost says "If the U.S. government possesses information to corroborate that statement, it should release it, including declassifying any intelligence." washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/…
The situation right now, I presume, is that the intelligence cannot be declassified because of endangering the source(s).

In that case, please create a curated list of non-gov people who can see this intelligence. There is a lot at stake.
Read 23 tweets
7 Feb
Been seeing rumors that the Covid-19 virus (SARS-CoV-2) has never been isolated before. I'll post links and snapshots of some papers here to show that several different groups in different countries have each isolated the virus.

First is WIV Wuhan China..
nature.com/articles/s4158… ImageImage
2nd Hong Kong, China (I know same country but different labs). tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.10… Image
3rd example Guangdong, still China because that's where there was first access to patient samples.
jvi.asm.org/content/94/17/… Image
Read 12 tweets
7 Feb
The extended, slightly more technical (more comprehensive), zero paywall version of our article @mattwridley on #originsofcovid

Essentially, anyone asking me about evidence for lab origins should read this article first and then talk to me later.

rationaloptimist.com/8691
Our article includes a shoutout to the many internet sleuths (some scientists) who unearthed the connection between 2012 SARS-like cases in Yunnan and the closest virus genome to SARS-CoV-2 (covid virus). But you can read more about DRASTIC here: mygenomix.medium.com/the-origin-of-…
Article also contains the list of experts with links on each of their names so you don’t have to scroll through my 🧵 to collect all the links.
Read 4 tweets
6 Feb
This is the 2nd half of the piece on the #originsofcovid that @mattwridley was very nice to invite me to co-write.

In the first 1/2 @WSJ we advocated for a credible investigation. In this 2/2 @Telegraph we revisit the story of the search for the origins.
telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/02/0…
I know that there are a growing number of similar pieces out there now including yesterday's @washingtonpost editorial board opinion, @NYMag @nicholsonbaker8 lab leak hypothesis, and @BillNye podcast interview of @DavidRelman - all superb reads/listens.
In our piece in the @Telegraph @mattwridley and I lay out for the non-scientist what has been investigated so far, what the public has been told in the past year re: #originsofcovid and why we think that #laborigins are plausible and must be investigated. telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/02/0…
Read 28 tweets
5 Feb
I told you that lab origins is so hot right now.
washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/…
Thank you @TheSeeker268 for the heads up.
So @washingtonpost since you're just starting to report on the bat CoV sampling, chimeric viruses, the Mojiang miners, the missing database, and EcoHealth ties to the WIV - are you interested in talking to me about all these naughty papers coming out of China?
Read 6 tweets
5 Feb
Wow, just listened to this @SamHarrisOrg podcast with @zeynep - we need @zeynep in the @WhiteHouse

So many 🔥points about information gatekeeping and Zeynep's experience having to go against the WHO and CDC scientific consensus as an expert in an adjacent field.
💙@zeynep says, even as someone on the side of science, she doesn't like the phrases "trust/follow the science"

Science is often complicated by group-think and politics. Expert trust needs to be built, and it cannot be achieved via condescension or shaming non-experts.
Also ⚡️discussion between @zeynep and @SamHarrisOrg that sometimes, in a rare situation, it's the outsider that overturns the scientific consensus.

Most of the time the experts are correct. But how do you distinguish the rare instances when they are wrong?
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