Thread by @soundmigration

1/ Thread: Big (and good) questions for #StopCeta, now Dail vote been kicked back to a committee. (Woop woop, yes give yourselves that) It's very clear that a none to small section *within* the Greens are winning so far.

2/ While until now, understandably, much focus has been on the Green party in gov as a whole, wider anti Ceta movement needs to go beyond. And definitely avoid the printed soap opera from pol corrs.

3/ Much of media focus will lazer in on potential Green split around #StopCETA. And FG/FF and most political correspondents will want to keep that focus. CETA as political drama. Dont get distracted by that.

4/ The threat of a split is real, but entralled by spectacle of a split is of no benefit in ensuring CETA/ICS falls.

5/ Pressure from outside the party to #StopCETA obviously has significant support within the party *and its objectively working.* Hence the now 2nd kicking the can down the road from a CETA/ICS vote. So what now says you?

6/ Well the wider #StopCETA has significant support within Greens, who are now fighting that corner internally. There are real limits to what external organising can do in taht very specific site of struggle on the issue.

7/ It's there, we see it, you can support those within the Green fighting it. But thats not the only site of struggle

#StopCETA needs (imho) a wider political len that pulls in FF and FG party structure (and voters) who remain to be convinced of CETA/ICS.

8/ Where is that soft underbelly to start peeling away support for CETA from FF/FG base? The arguments and evidence against is coherent and backed up. Legal, moral, economic, democratic etc. Its all there already #StopCETA.

9/ This is evidence by the very obvious popular support to #StopCETA. I imagine there will be some polling on this some. But you can be aware of echo chambers online and still see that this is a specific issue that transcedes traditional political boundaries.

10/ It is a clearly solidifying issue for broad left organising, one that exemplifies the old left getting its shit together on ecological issues, and the success of climate justice and green new deal arguments breaking out of tired -often imposed -cliches.

11/ The popular argument may still have to be won, but the position and arguements of #StopCETA are much closer to 'common sense' as it is, that the rationale presented by its proponents in FG and FF. That is leverage to use

12/ So the terrain needs to move focus from Greens to two main areas. Public discourse more generally and FF/FG base locally. Any #StopCETA win will be hard won, but its entirely plausible.

13/ At the risk of flogging the horse to death, it wont be won't be won by focusing extraparliamentary organising work on the Greens, but rather the massive chunk of undecided concilllors/TD's and voters around FF/FG who have probably never thought about it.