President of French company which sold cladding for Grenfell accepts company told a "misleading half truth" by concealing serious fire test failure from certifiers
Claude Schmidt has been grilled this morning mostly about the means by which Arconic obtained a certificate from the British Board of Agrèment regarding the fire performance of the panels used on Grenfell Tower:
(A note: BBA certs are widely used and very well respected in the construction sector as the authoritative statement on how products perform. Most building professionals + inspectors will simply take them on their word)
We saw a clip from the witness statement of another Arconic witness Claude Wehrle, which said the certificate was obtained "largely" for marketing purposes "to be better able to sell the products"
We saw the application form Arconic to the BBA, which showed the testing information Arconic provided. The Class 0 test referred to below was carried out on the 'fire retardant' version of the panel, not the pure polyethylene one (the certificate covered both)
We then saw the contract between the BBA and Arconic which had the following clause on testing, obliging Arconic to disclose 'any test data' relating to the product
But it appears the crucial 'test 5B' which was discussed yesterday and showed the panels burning 10x as fiercely when bent into a cassette form was never disclosed to the BBA. Mr Schmidt was repeatedly asked why.
His answers, in summary, were that he did not know exactly why the team involved had not done so, but that the BBA could have asked for the test data when it audited the panels and it would have provided the test if asked
We looked at English regs which show the standard for tall buildings can be either English Class 0 or European Class B. The 2005 test shows the panels falling very well short of this Class B rating. But Arconic only provided a test on a rivet panel, where it met this standard
Mr Schmidt denied that this concealment of the cassette test was deliberate, but did say the people dealing with the BBA for Arconic "probably didn't give the right information".
"Do you accept that in providing the rivet test only... Arconic was telling the BBA a misleading half truth?"
"Yes, you can say it like that," says Schmidt.
Asked if this was because doing so would have "cast serious doubt on the fire performance" of the product, Mr Schmidt said "I'm not sure really" and added that other competitors' certificates only referred to Class 0 and didn't refer to the European tests at all
Schmidt continues after lunch.
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President of Arconic's French arm accepts customers were 'deliberately and dishonestly misled' over fire classification of cladding panels, as he is asked about email saying failed fire test must be kept 'VERY CONFIDENTIAL'
The most interesting point of this morning's evidence came right at the end of the session when Claude Schmidt was grilled about an email his colleague Claude Wehrle sent regarding the serious failure of polyethylene-cored ACM panels when bent into a cassette form in March 2010
Remember: Arconic in 2004/5 tested its ACM PE panel when bent into cassette and when bolted to a wall with rivets. The cassette version failed spectacularly, burning 10 times as fast. But Arconic dismissed this as a 'rogue result' and drew no distinction in its marketing...
President of the firm which sold the highly combustible used on Grenfell denies that a 2005 test in which it failed “spectacularly” was the firm’s “deadly secret”
There is a lot in today's evidence which is crucial in understanding why Grenfell happened. Essentially, we heard the details of a test in 2005 which showed the cladding was exceptionally combustible when bent into a 'cassette' shape
This is the configuration used on Grenfell Tower. Arconic did not warn the market about this risk and instead sold the cladding with a certificate suggesting it met a much higher standard.
This is pretty extraordinary. Test reports shows Grenfell cladding burned 10 times more quickly, released seven times as much heat and three times as much smoke when bent into cassette shapes as opposed to a flat panel.
Arconic's certificate drew no distinction between them.
Worth emphasising here that while the refurbishment team did not know this, the only reason cassette shaped panels was used on Grenfell was aesthetics. They were actually more expensive.
For those interested, riveted panels had a fire growth rate 105.5 watts, cassette had 1009. Riveted had a heat realease of 7.8 megajoules, cassette had 59. Riveted had smoke growth index rating of 5.7, cassette was 16.6.
- President of Arconic accepts "false statement" in certificate describing the fire classification of cladding used on tower
- Says 'regulatory differences' reason why highly combustible panels were so popular in UK
This morning we've been hearing from Claude Schmidt, current president of AAP SAS, the French arm of Arconic which made and sold the 'Reynobond PE' cladding panels used on Grenfell. They have already been identified as the 'primary cause' of the rapid fire spread at the tower.
Inquiry counsel Richard Millett began by asking him (via a translator) whether or not he agreed with several factual statements. Among other things, he asked whether he agreed that the PE panels, when bent into the cassette shape in which they were used on Grenfell...
Right, short afternoon break coming up at the inquiry so a quick summary of some interesting bits of evidence this afternoon:
Arconic told sales people in France to push more fire safe product from 2016 onwards, but continued to sell deadly product in England
So this afternoon, we've been hearing from Vince Meakins who took over as Arconic's UK sales manager in late 2014. He had little involvement in Grenfell Tower, but has been asked about the company's approach to the market and fire safety questions.
He said that he was told to focus more on winning sales for the 'FR' (a more fire resistant version with less of the petrol-like polyethylene), at a sales meeting which he says was early in his time at Arconic
A final thought on Jenrick's announcement today. The route of the government's problem is a failure to distinguish the varying levels of risk in buildings and until that nettle is grasped this problem will never go away.
We've got to remember why all this is necessary. It's to stop a repeat of the absolutely appalling tragedy which took place less than four years ago. Fire deaths in high rises might be low, but that doesn't change the fact that the conditions for a repeat disaster still exist.
Any part of achieving this aim should be proactively assessing blocks of flats with a view to working out which are potential Grenfells, which are potential Lakanals and which are not perfect but are not that bad.