X : Did you say the future is serverless.
Me : Yes and the new practices, new needs met ... but that was quite a few years ago. Why?
X : Do you think there is room for another serverless play?
Me : Oh, that war is over. In the West, it's AWS (1st), MSFT (2nd).
Me : Yes and the new practices, new needs met ... but that was quite a few years ago. Why?
X : Do you think there is room for another serverless play?
Me : Oh, that war is over. In the West, it's AWS (1st), MSFT (2nd).
X : What do you mean it's over.
Me : It's over. The battle started 7 years ago, it's finished. Winners declared etc. It's just the washup now.
X : What about Kubernetes?
Me : I thought it was amazing that Amazon got a 7 year head start in IaaS ...
Me : It's over. The battle started 7 years ago, it's finished. Winners declared etc. It's just the washup now.
X : What about Kubernetes?
Me : I thought it was amazing that Amazon got a 7 year head start in IaaS ...
... I couldn't believe it when AWS was given another 7 year head start in serverless whilst everyone messed around with Kubernetes. I mean, get it wrong once is ok but twice? They must have been laughing.
X : There is no value in Kubernetes.
Me : Oh, there's money to be made ...
X : There is no value in Kubernetes.
Me : Oh, there's money to be made ...
... you forget the laggards. There's about 15 years of decent money (increasingly a more ugly market) in selling tin, data centres and old practices left.
You've got another 5-10 years of good DevOps money and another 15 years of good money in a grim market ...
You've got another 5-10 years of good DevOps money and another 15 years of good money in a grim market ...
... those laggards take time. There's plenty of money to retire on. It's just not the future.
X : So, 25 years of DevOps / K8s money?
Me : Yep. Next 5-10 years will tend to be kind. Last 15 years or so will be grim in that market. Plenty of time to retire if that's what you want.
Me : Yep. Next 5-10 years will tend to be kind. Last 15 years or so will be grim in that market. Plenty of time to retire if that's what you want.
Me : You could be a bit evil?
X : Explain?
Me : Sell a bit of tin / dc now then flog a devops / K8s migration plan in five years or include building the environment and then flog a serverless migration plan say in 10-15 years? Triple down on those migration plans, make a killing.
X : Explain?
Me : Sell a bit of tin / dc now then flog a devops / K8s migration plan in five years or include building the environment and then flog a serverless migration plan say in 10-15 years? Triple down on those migration plans, make a killing.
X : When does PaaS eat the world?
Me : Keep up. The industry had to rename PaaS years ago because everyone kept renaming their thing.
Me : Keep up. The industry had to rename PaaS years ago because everyone kept renaming their thing.
... true to form, a chunk of the industry seems to be renaming their latest thing to serverless anyway. Expect the serverless data centre soon, if not already, provided by Oracle. They'll probably call it Edge Serverless or something. Whatever.
X : But serverless is small compared to IaaS.
Me : Do we really have to go through the punctuated equilibrium and exponential change patterns again? We did this in 2011. You can't Handy 2nd Wave yourself into this market, it's over when it gets to about 1% of its potential.
Me : Do we really have to go through the punctuated equilibrium and exponential change patterns again? We did this in 2011. You can't Handy 2nd Wave yourself into this market, it's over when it gets to about 1% of its potential.
X: So where would a legit multicloud play fit in?
Me : About 2008-2011?
Me : About 2008-2011?
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