Some thoughts on ep.59 of #Hercai
There’s is no hate, my condition is for u.There is not need to speak,my silence is a statement to u.There’s is no need for words, my thirst is speech to u.There’s is no need of words,love is for u #ReyMir #EbruŞahin #AkınAkınözü #HercaiThoughts
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PRAISE
As always my thread starts with my praise. I loved this episode so much and I want to thank Ebru once again for portraying Reyyan: a young woman who has the purest heart although greatest evil was done to her. #Hercai
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For me she will always be the strongest and purest character in Hercai. And I want to thank Akin for portraying Miran: a young man I want to repeatedly hug and slap at the same time. The way he can portray fragileness and anger so perfectly will never stop to amaze me. #Hercai
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PRAISE TO THE WRITERS
Bersan and Zeynep wrote amazing dialogues in this episode, only being the two of them. I wished we had an even better translation in English to understand their dialoges to a 100%, but nonetheless, bravo to you two!👏🥰 #Hercai
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WORDS I LOVED
*Reyyan: “They should have known it from us. Not from Fusun.”
➡️Reyyan knows how it hurts if a truth is brought to you by someone who enjoys your pain and likes watching you suffer. She knows it bcs it’s exactly what Yaren did to her. #Hercai
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*Zehra: “It’s not your fault Reyyan, those who shared this secret with you, those who left you between are to blame”.
➡️I liked how Zehra said that once again, Reyyan is not to blame for anything. #Hercai
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*Miran: “I only realized how lucky I am. Because I have a father like you. Don’t forget that your son is proud to be his father, please. Because we will hold each other and thus will be saved from this truth. We will not run from it.” #Hercai
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*M: “It’s all because of you. All because of your selfishness (Azize).
*“The ones you love the most are the one who hurt you the most.”
*“Time is the most precious thing we own, we will know its price.”
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*M. did not sleep in the bed without R. I love that he stays true to this promise although I'd like to know if he slept on the floor for 40 nights after Elif’s death too&as we are on it, will u ever tell us where R.&M.stayed all this time? I know I will wait in vain. :) #Hercai
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OPENING SCENE
H: “I know how I am. My mother is Nazly Shadoglu.”
A: “I only wanted you to forgive me. I will live for this…”
➡️I found it very well done how they mingled Miran’s paternity revelation flashbacks with Hazar’ maternity revelation now. #Hercai
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MIRAN AND HAZAR IN THE CAR
I love this scene because it includes three parallelisms: #Hercai
11 1) Hazar drives like a mad man the same way Miran does when he is angry/confused and when Reyyan gets scared by his driving manners. Now it’s Miran who gets to feel what Reyyan feels in these moments. #Hercai
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H: “They think I will hug her, kiss her hand, call her mother. I had a mother. My mom was here. Full of love, full of mercy. That’s who she raised us.” #Hercai
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➡️So Nazly made no difference between Hazar and Cihan, the same way Hazar made no difference with Reyyan and Gül. Without knowing it, Hazar, who was adopted, showed the same mercy towards his adopted daughter. #Hercai
14 3) Miran: “I only realized how lucky I am. Because I have a father like you. Don’t forget that your son is proud to be his father, please. Because we will hold each other and thus will be saved from this truth. We will not run from it. #Hercai
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➡️Incredibly beautiful to watch and hear these words from Miran addressed at Hazar. The mercy and compassion that Reyyan always showed and taught Miran, Miran is now able to pass on to his father. #Hercai
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REYYAN-MIRAN ARGUING
M: “How can you think I will forgive this woman?”
R: “I don’t forgive, I don’t forget.”
M: “I can’t stand that you collaborated with her despite me.”
R: “I don't collaborate with anyone”.
M: “But you were silent.” #Hercai
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R: “I didn’t collaborate, I didn't’ lie to you Miran.”
R: “How many times will you go and leave me alone” What will happen to your promises?
M: “I will not leave you! But we are in this position because we do not keep our promises. I need to be alone.” #Hercai
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➡️What can I say this scene broke my heart. From the fragman I thought I was only going to be mad at Miran, but Ebru&Akin were so powerful to make me feel compassion for both Reyyan&Miran, to the same extent. This scene was so perfect that it weighed heavy on my heart. #Hercai
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AZIZE AND FÜSUN AT THE ASLANBEY KONAK
So, Azize tells Füsun that Azra will not forgive her, but she in comparison to Füsun never shed blood. #Hercai
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➡️I guess Azize hasn’t got the memo of all her actions. How would she otherwise describe exactly the suicide with a head shot from her son because of her damn revenge? #Hercai
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And what I also laughed about: Azize was getting at Füsun as if she wasn’t stabbed the night before. While she was all whining and weak at Umut konak, here she got back her super forces. #Hercai
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GÖNÜL AND FIRAT
I felt sorry for Gönül that after another bomb about her family (Hazar being her uncle) she was alone again. I wished there was some little interaction between her and Firat at least.
But the attention was again only at Firat-Miran. #Hercai
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MIRAN AT THE HUT VS. REYYAN AT HOME
Have you noticed how both of them are in darkness, Miran in the hut, Reyyan at home in bed? Both “talk” to each other by looking at each other. Then they turn their backs to each other bcs in fact it’s what they did to each other: #Hercai
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both, Miran and Reyyan made “mistakes” and it is underlined with them turning their backs, leaving the other one out, leaving the other one in darkness. I read some complaints that ppl say that Ali is shooting in too dark places, in too dark spots. #Hercai
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I would like to ask these ppl: have you thought about the possibility that this is done to visually underline that both, Miran and Reyyan are “in darkness” because they hid stuff from each other? Think about the first shots of Miran we ever saw in S1: #Hercai
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he was in darkness, he was standing in glooming light. This was not because they had not enough light to spend on him/the scene, but to make a contrast between Miran and Reyyan. Miran is darkness, Reyyan is light. #Hercai
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Now we reached a point that also Reyyan became “dark” bcs she was hiding stuff, something she never did before. So, this darkness has to be read as a stylistic device, arkadaşlar! #Hercai
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And I want to add that further in the episode also other scenes such as Hazar/Azize at the farmhouse were shot in very dark spaces, to underline the heaviness, the glominess of the conversation the characters are having. #Hercai
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MIRAN&THE PHONE
M runs away from R, doesn't call R, M doesn't answer R’s calls but then he asks with hopeful voice when a car approaches if R will exit from it. Off aga!I wanted to punch some sense into M’s logic here& later I lost it when he smashed the phone!!! #Hercai
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FIRAT AND MIRAN
I was glad that it was revealed in this episode that Firat also knew about Azize and that Firat told Miran that he did not tell him to protect him from doing something stupid. #Hercai
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REYYAN GOING TO THE HOSPITAL
Have you noticed that everything was pink in those frames: her pj, her slippers near the bed, the lamp near her bed, her hospital bag? #Hercai
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MIRAN AT THE HUT
I loved that fact that Miran felt that something was not ok with Reyyan. We saw this “sensing” of Reyyan before when Miran got shot in the beginning of S2. #Hercai
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ZEHRA
Z: “Is it not enough for you that she went through because of you?? Didn’t my daughter suffer enough? Didn’t she pay enough?”
Have I said that Zehra was my queen? No!? ZEHRA IS MY QUEEN! #Hercai
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REYYAN AND AZRA AT THE HOSPITAL
So, the first frame was focused on two baby dolls, a girl and a boy. Then when Azra makes a strange face these dolls are still in the lower frame of the picture, all the time. #Hercai
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When Miran arrives and when ReyMir are left alone, the dolls are still kept in the focus. This cannot be a coincidence and if we are being fooled so much with hope of the twins being alive, then it would simply be sadistic of the production. #Hercai
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Have you also noticed that in the between scenes we get Füsun who looks at old pictures of Azra, her “little” Günes, while the baby Günes, she tried to kill, is hiding in the ecography? #Hercai
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We also see that Füsun gives order to proceed with Yaren’s “punishment”, and once more we see the ruthlessness/evil side. I am more than convinced that she tried to kill the baby for real and that she did not bribe that doctor. #Hercai
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And most probably the doctor made a mistake in the first place to say that one of the two fetus died. #Hercai
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FIRA HITTING MIRAN
I loved him for hitting Miran and for telling Zeynep to please leave them alone. A true gentleman! #Hercai
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YAREN AND THE ROPE
I have to be honest. I didn’t feel any kind of compassion at all with Yaren’s suicide attempt. But what got me to say a BIG, FAT WOW, was the fact that the camera focused on the shadow of the rope that was projected at Reyyan’s former room. #Hercai
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Have you caught this detail? Is this an omen that the noose is very slowly tightening around Yaren and her former bad actions against Reyyan? That she will finally pay for what she has done in the past? #Hercai
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REYMIR CONFRONTATION
R: “What have I done to you?”
M: “Nothing.”
R: “What have I done to you besides thinking about you, about baba? My only fault is that I hid what I knew.” #Hercai
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➡️Have I said how much I love Reyyan? No? I love Reyyan! She dragged Miran’s a*** and slapped him with truths only she can do it. I was so cheering for her and she was so majestical in this scene. Bravo, Ebru! #Hercai
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HAZAR&THE BULLDOZER
So, a lot was already written about this particular scene but I still want to add my thoughts on this one. What hits us the most is the predominance of the colour red, right? The car that is demolished is red, Azize approaching Hazar is wearing red. #Hercai
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Have u counted the hits that Hazar gives to that car?He smashes that car four times! And do you remember one of the very first sentences of the off-voice in R’s nightmare in the opening of ep.1: “Don’t choose the red?”. Good, now let’s concentrate on red&the four hits. #Hercai
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The four closest women to H’s life were all victims&wore red at some point:
1 - Dilsha wears red in the pic in which she is pregnant and condemned to death by Azize. H’s first love was Azize’s first victim. #Hercai
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Reyyan wore red at her henna night and was condemned to death after revenge. Reyyan being the second victim of Azize. #Hercai
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Gül, who got shot at the wedding wanted a red balloon. Hazar’s youngest daughter fought for her life bcs of Azize and is her third victim. #Hercai
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Zehra as R’s mother wore red at the “fake wedding”. Z was risking several times losing her daughter bcs of revenge. Zehra is Azize’s forth victim. #Hercai
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Of course you might say this is far-fetched but still if we think about it, all female victims of Azize in a way are connected to the colour red. Hazar hitting that car four times is as if he hitted Azize for the four women victims she caused. #Hercai
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FLASHBACK&THE POEM VS. CIHAN&HAZAR TALKING
R: “Yesterday is a fallen leaf. This is a dry branch that fell from the tree. Yesterday is no better than today. U will find something tomorrow.”
Ci: “Grown, but like fallen leaves from a tree that became toys of the wind.” #Hercai
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➡️Have you all noticed that we got the symbol of TREES through words in this episode? #Hercai
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NASHU&AZIZE
N: “Today is valentins’ day for the beloved. My beloved, to my baby’s mum”
A: “I didn't know, never celebrated it.”
N: “Forgive me, my Ayse. Forgive me. No matter how long I have to live, everything is yours. I live for u and for the children. Cry no more.” #Hercai
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➡️Well get ready because I am about to explode: I really, really, really, can’t with Nashu, I simply can’t. I can’t accept the fact that he goes lovey dovey to Azize and tells her these words. You might have loved this woman in the past, I get that, I truly do. #Hercai
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But why can’t you see what she did? How can you be so blind? You just recently found out that you have a grandson, who you haven’t seen grow up, she has hidden the mother of your grandson making him believe she is dead. Locking that woman up for 30 years. #Hercai
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Letting your beloved son live with this agony for 30 years. Not saying one word about what she did to Reyyan in the first place! And last but not least, she also took Füsun’s child and what do you do? You go to her with flowers and you APOLOGIZE? #Hercai
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Why do you never ask her why she didn’t confront you? Why did she give up on you? Why did she never investigate that her “dead thought son” has the same name as his son of second marriage. #Hercai
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I hate the road they are taking in redeeming Nashu and Azize/Ayse’s love. It simply doesn’t make sense. There are too many things unsaid to only think about and talk about and you say “I live for you”. #Hercai
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REYMIR SURPRISE
I loved how this scene started, we got a full camera swing of 360° starting with “looking and approaching” Reyyan, then we overfly her head and end up in her perspective looking at Miran. #Hercai
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This was so nicely done and it only was an announcement for all the words that were about to follow from Miran. Reyyan changed M’s life 360°, she was the woman who taught him everything, but he is still learning and that is the reason he still keeps making mistakes+ #Hercai
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+&unfortunately, hurt her with his actions too.
“I learned to love her, learned everything from her. But I didn’t learn not to hurt her for what was happening to me, I didn’t learn not to get lost on her. Bcs she didn’t teach me this& I didnt’ know”
Vay, vay,Miran bey! #Hercai
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YAREN GOING WITH FÜSUN
I am sure Yaren will tell Füsun a lie and say she is pregnant. Bcs would she commit suicide if she knew and was pregnant for real earlier with the rope?
Füsun will only stop if she had a chance that Yaren will give her a grandchild of Harun. #Hercai
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THE GIFT
R: “Have you created a foundation?”
M: “We created - Umut Shadoglu foundation. So that the girls who live on this earth learn. We made our first donation on behalf of our son. For girls to learn. They will educate men who will know how to love. #Hercai
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Educated, with a career. To have more strong girls. (...) Now you will become an example for local girls. For all Reyyans, all Elif’s, all Dilsha’s who have fallen victim to violence, traditions, and revenge. Like Umut’s mother, you will become their hope.” #Hercai
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➡️I loved this scene for so many reasons. I got emotional at Miran’s sentence “for all Reyyans, Elifs and Dilshas”. I loved the message of empowerment of young women who could and will change the world. I loved the message of educating girls to bring peace. #Hercai
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I loved that Elif was mentioned finally, acknowledged at least by her abi. And have you seen the detail of the olive tree branches? They even decorated the arch over the dinner table with olive tree branches. All these scenes were so perfectly done! Bravo to everyone! #Hercai
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HAZAR&AZIZE AT THE FARMHOUSE
H:“Not for a moment, not for a moment did she make me feel that I was adopted. This Nazly, as you call her, did not separate me from her own son.”
➡️As I wrote before, I loved how H. subconsciously treated R the same way as Nazly did with H #Hercai
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H: “What do you want from me?”
A: “I only want you to call me mum.”
H: “Never. Never. You will never be able to hear this word from me.” #Hercai
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➡️It’s the same words Miran uttered to Hazar at the very beginning. Did you notice that the same music was playing in the background like the time Azize got to know from Nashu that Hazar is her son under the trees? #Hercai
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H: “You took my beloved, pregnant woman away from me. Told she was dead and locked her up. You took my son from me. I haven’t seen the birth of my son. Didn’t see him crawl, begin to walk. Didn’t hear him say “daddy”. #Hercai
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➡️I loved in this scene how Hazar started with running down to Azize one by one her victims and what she has done to him/them. #Hercai
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A: “Don’t cry, always be happy.”
➡️I found it beyond disturbing that everything Azize was able to say when Hazar started crying because of all the pain she caused to him, the only “meaningless” words she was able to say were: “don’t cry, always be happy.” #Hercai
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Even to her own son she cannot apologize. She can’t utter words of regret, on how much she is sorry for what she did to him, to his family, to his life. #Hercai
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H: “Happy, how? Ok, I understood. They took your son and said he was dead, I understand. Yout suffered. But why? Why did you become so bad? To be bad is your choice. Why? You see how much my daughter suffered bcs of you. Has she gotten bad? #Hercai
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You tricked her into a fake marriage, threw her in her wedding dress on the town square. Has she gotten bad? My son? Despite you having wounded him, he turned bad? No, you know why? #Hercai
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Because my children's hearts are pure. You are rotten from the inside. Rotten inside.”
➡️To be bad is your choice! What powerful words.👏👏 #Hercai
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A: “Hazar, kill me.”
➡️This might sound strange to you, but I was not surprised at all when Azize said those words to Hazar. Bcs as I wrote in my thread the other week, Azize is evil, but again she is not brave and most of all, she is selfish again. #Hercai
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She even wants to put the burden of killing his own mother on Hazar. As if everything she did to him was not enough already.😭 #Hercai
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REYMIR DANCE
M: “Why is this child doing everything so early? Wasn’t he a lentil the other day? Does he already have legs? What kick?” #Hercai
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➡️So, we had a beautiful apology from Miran to Reyyan and to Umut. Then we had another apology of Miran and also from Reyyan and then the baby kicks!
BIG COINCIDENCE 😍😍😍and I will give you the answer who gave that kick: #Hercai
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Babacim, you only talk to mum and to Umut, ama, I am Günes and I am here too and you should know, Umut is taking up all my space so you don’t see me yet because I am smaller! I am here to also claim an apology and a kiss, the same you always give to Umut, tamam!? Hadi! #Hercai
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REYMIR WITH THE CAKE&THE OPEN WINDOW
So, the words on the cake say “everyone deserves a second chance” &R adds:“M, if we imagine a life in which we can leave everything behind for the sake of Umut and for our family. That’s what I want to know. Can you forgive Azize?” #Hercai
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When I heard this question from Reyyan, I had to think of all similar questions Reyyan asked Miran before: 1) Parallelism ep.13
➡️ R.: “For our sake, for the sake of our marriage, will you forget your revenge?” #Hercai
84 2) Parallelisms ep. 38
➡️R: “For our sake, for the sake of our family, for the sake of our love, will you give up your revenge?” #Hercai
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➡️R: That’s what I want to know, for our family and our child, can you forgive Azize?” #Hercai
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So whereas the 1st and the 2nd questions were about the end/giving up of revenge, the 3rd question seems to be about redeeming Azize. But in fact it’s not. #Hercai
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Reyyan repeatedly said during the whole episode: I don’t collaborate with no one, I don’t forget and I did not forgive. But once again it’s her who realizes that only if there can be some sort of “normality” or at least non-hostility between+ #Hercai
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+ Azize and Miran, they will be able to live in peace. #Hercai
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THE CANDLE&THE WIND
One of the most discussed scenes was also the cake, the wind, the candle and the zooming onto ReyMir’s picture. Ali did his homework once again ;)
Well, let’s start with 1st things first.Wind as a symbol always announces change or confusion,right? #Hercai
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And I want you to remember again ep. 13 and ep. 38. In episode 13 ReyMir were standing in the hut when Reyyan told Miran why she couldn’t accept to be his wife. There was heavy wind around them although they were in the hut (go back and watch that scene!). #Hercai
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The same goes to the scene of E.38 in which we see Azize in Esma’s house surrounded by white, flattering curtains, heavy wind&her holding a gun in her hands. At the end of both episodes (13&38)great change was about to come and I read this end of episode the same way. #Hercai
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But let me explain: so, we have a red candle that on the one hand represents love (ReyMir’s love) and on the other hand it can be metaphorically speaking, be seen as Azize. All this revenge (but also this revenge love story) started because of a fire (= the candle). #Hercai
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Ayse went into the fire for Hazar. She did all this evil because of a fire. Azize was burning for so many years but now with this episode, all her secrets are out. So maybe the candle went out because her “fire” in her, went out too. #Hercai
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The candle goes out “involuntarily” because of the wind. Truths were spoken without Azize wanting it (Miran’s revelation) or without her having the strength to say it (Hazar’s revelation). And it can be read that it’s Azize’s personal fire. #Hercai
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At this point of the story, all her secrets regarding Miran and Hazar are out. But they were revealed not by her but by someone else, bcs she was not strong enough, not brave enough to tell (= the wind blows out the candle). #Hercai
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The camera focuses on the blown out candle and then zooms onto the pictures of Reyyan, Miran and Gül. And it can be read as a question: now that Azize’s fire is out, will ReyMir and Gül have been the last of the victims of this revenge? #Hercai
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Or in other words, were they her last victims and she can truly become Ayse again? Interesting is also the fact that Gül is on that pictures, because as I wrote before, also Gül is a victim of this revenge (with her bullet in her head) but + #Hercai
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+ by coincidence it’s also Gül hanim (N’s mother) who told Ayse the lie about H’s death in the first place and Nashu’s second marriage. So the wind can be read as: what will happen from now on without the "fire"? What will the new truths bring to Shadolgus/Aslanbeys? #Hercai
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And with this it's a wrap for this week! The comments now are up to you, thank you for reading! 💜🦋 #Hercai
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Always believe in miracles also if nobody else does! 🦋
Souls are not sold at the bazaar of love. I’ll sell my soul, no one else can take it. They give peace because Yunus is dead. Bodies die, but lovers never die.
~ Yunus Emre
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PRAISE
My praise goes to the two people who are the reason why this episode carries the number 58 which is nearly 60!
So thank you to Ebru and Akın, always and forever. #Hercai
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PRAISE
The first tweet goes to Ebru and Akın who have carried the dizi since 57 episodes.
Someone should come and kiss your feet 24/7, we know who this someone is. #Hercai
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OPENING SCENE/DREAM SEQUENCE
So, let’s get straight away into one of the most discussed scenes from last episode. I want you to read first this description of pearls: #Hercai
If you ask for news about me
I have a couple of words to tell u, wholeheartedly:
I will enter the land with ur love,
I will come out of the soil with ur love
~ Ömer H. Siirleri
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PRAISE
For me episode 56 was once more the evidence that Hercai is going into its 57 episode because of ReyMir’s incredible chemistry and this thanks to Ebru and Akın. So thank you to two for bringing Reyyan and Miran alive in the first place. #Hercai
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ALL REYMIR SCENES
What can I say, I loved all the ReyMir scenes. And I re-watching their scenes on loop. #Hercai
If you ask for news about me
I have a couple of words to tell u, wholeheartedly:
I will enter the land with ur love,
I will come out of the soil with ur love
~ Ömer H. Siirleri
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Again I need to open my thread with a note.
As I said in my last thread, I don’t approve of Dilsha being alive bcs it brought so much inconsistency into the story as such. But having said that, I can’t deny that I was moved of course by the reunion of mother and son. #Hercai
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Who would not have been? The way Miran is once more abandoned and lonely in front of a closed door. The struggle and begging of being loved really broke my heart. I also liked the actress who plays Dilsha so far. #Hercai
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I have to make a note before writing about this episode. I was the person (still am) who thinks that bringing back D. was a bad idea. I repeat it that for me the writing of S1 and S2 is like tossed into the bin with that plot evolution, but they had to invent something+ #Hercai
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+ to be able to continue to prolong the general story after Aslan’s story did not work out. All the suffering of M., all the crying seems for “nothing” for two seasons and we viewers are also kind of fed up in seeing him cry all the time when with the upcoming episodes+ #Hercai
So, I am late but I need to say two or three things.
Ppl who follow me know I was against D’s resurrection plot because like this S1 and S2 were written for nothing. But Dilsha is here and I read comments about Miran being a crying baby + #Hercai#ReyMir
+which is true but the problem here is that he cried too much for her loss in S1&S2, thus we are kind of fed up. But now comes my famous BUT:
This man just discovered that his dead thought mother is alive. The woman he in first place took revenge for bc she was+ #Hercai#ReyMir
+ apparently raped (lie) and killed (lie). The man who was mentally abused for 27y by his grandmother and who nearly drove him crazy. Miran lived so many moments of abandonment and loss and for what: for a big, fat overall LIE. + #Hercai#ReyMir