If you ask for news about me
I have a couple of words to tell u, wholeheartedly:
I will enter the land with ur love,
I will come out of the soil with ur love
~ Ömer H. Siirleri
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PRAISE
For me episode 56 was once more the evidence that Hercai is going into its 57 episode because of ReyMir’s incredible chemistry and this thanks to Ebru and Akın. So thank you to two for bringing Reyyan and Miran alive in the first place. #Hercai
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ALL REYMIR SCENES
What can I say, I loved all the ReyMir scenes. And I re-watching their scenes on loop. #Hercai
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OPENING SCENE
The episode opens nearly the same way as epi 1 did. It starts with a dream that ends in a nightmare for Reyyan. The dress is very similar and in both scenes she is bare feet. It gave me very much the vibe I wrote in my last episode:+ #Hercai
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+ we came to an end in ep. 55&with ep. 56 something new starts. The red bandana was very much discussed & it’s difficult to interpret it at this point to be honest. My thoughts are that the swing stopped, there is no way the person could have pushed R. into the abyss. #Hercai
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All we know is that later that hand with that red bandana saves Miran and drags him out of the car, which might get up in flames eventually (parallel to Sultan/Elif car scene).
So, for now we only know that the person “helped” and we have to see how it will evolve. #Hercai
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Will the red colour of the bandana be a bad sign? As we heard the off-voice in ep.1: “Don’t choose the red one?”
We will find out in the next episodes... #Hercai
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NARRATIVE TECHNIQUE
I simply loved how they chose to tell the story using the anaphoric style element of narration, thus starting at the present and telling us the story backwards until we come to the point we see in the opening. It was a nice change and well done! #Hercai
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I don’t know if the director Ali Ilhan can change such things or if it’s our new writer who did this, anyways, I really liked it. It gave me the impression of watching a film, not a series. #Hercai
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WORDS I LOVED
- Reyyan: “Miracles are always with us.”
- Miran: “We will not pass on hatred, revenge to our children. We will not make our children the victims of their parents.”
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DETAILS I LOVED
- Reyyan being the only one able to calm down Dilsha in a great moment of distress&Miran not knowing how to handle the situation. It was probably pure coincidence but the ReyMir/D. scene was shot in the rain and I couldn’t help but think at the scene+ #Hercai
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+ in the morning after revenge when Miran cries in the rain at D’s grave. Now she is there, in front of him, and still she seems so far away. This mother being so cold the same way that tombstone felt. #Hercai
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- I loved that Miran did not touch Dilsha (as he promised) until she touched his face and he put his hands on hers #Hercai
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- On the other hand Mirancim touching Reyyan in every occasion, yaaaa, now that he has the green light he is unstoppable #Hercai
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- Miran sent Zeynep for Firat and Firo sent Lutfyu for Miran. Ahahaha revenge is sweet indeed. I couldn’t stop smiling. #Hercai
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- Have you noticed that Hazar goes with Sükran and Reyyan for the house tour and not with Dilsha and Miran? I liked that Hazar stayed with Reyyan. And for all who will ask: yes, I think also Zehra had to be there. #Hercai
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QUESTIONS
- Fusün preparing three other graves? Whom for? What is your plan, woman?
- Fusün rightfully says that three bullets were found at the crime scene, but only one was fired at Harun. We know one was shot by Cihan but the third bullet? Did I miss something here? #Hercai
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- Azize all worried at the wake for H, calling N &meeting him. Telling him she is afraid for M/H. So, A. knows that F. is cooking something up(she waited 7 days)but then she is surprised? Where is my favorite villain’s logic here, babanne, don’t deceive me now! :) #Hercai
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HARUN’S CRIME SCENE
The way we see the crime scene of Harun being examined, I am waiting for an explanation of the night in which Mehmet and Dilsha apparently died… where were their corpses? Where were they brought to? #Hercai
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FLASHBACK OF LITTLE MIRAN
The way my heart broke for little Miran with the words:
“The teacher said that butterflies do not die, they are always reborn… You never die, be always by my side. Happy mother’s day, grandma.” #Hercai
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PRAYING BEANS OF AZIZE
I forgot the details of the praying beans in the last episode. After the night at the rocks where Reyyan said to Azize to become Ayse again, we see her in the morning in the streets with the fixed chain of her praying beans. #Hercai
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Remember she tried several times to put them back together since they broke? It seems she finally was able to do so: #Hercai
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So, we are at the point of the story whereas before she carried them not to forget why she is doing all this& in order to keep “Ayse” dead in the first place within herself, now she carries them to make others forgive her revenge and to bring Ayse back to life again. #Hercai
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FLASHBACK AZIZE-DILSHA MINGLED WITH DILSHA AND AZIZE/MIRAN NOW
I loved how they mingled three scenes contemporary: 1) We see Dilsha talking to herself: “I considered her my daughter.” #Hercai
24 2) We see Miran asking questions to Azize about Azra and the flashback on how Azra was brought to Dilsha to give her a reason to live. #Hercai
25 3) We see how Miran sees the butterfly pin and says ”The child who bought you this died a long time ago.”
So Azize gave Dilsha a reason to live, but she killed Miran contemporary as a child. Ah the tables have turned big time, Azize! #Hercai
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POWERFUL PARALLEL OF THE BUTTERFLY PIN
Azize made the pin fall to the floor when Miran gave it to her, now it’s Miran who smashes it to the floor. #Hercai
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FIRAT-ESMA-AZIZE SCENE
I liked the new music we got in this scene. Keep it coming! #Hercai
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FIRAT
"I wish I didn’t know. I wish I didn’t know anything at all."
▶️Interesting question of life: sometimes we want to badly know something just to later realize it was better not to know it/understand the reason why it was hidden from us for such a long time. #Hercai
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NASHU-AZIZE
N: “Don’t be afraid, no one can harm you as long as I am here.” #Hercai
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▶️I hated this line as it is connected for me with the iconic sentence of Miran after the truck driver attacked Reyyan. “Don’t be afraid, no one can harm you as long as I am with you. No even myself.” Why all this parallels, why? #Hercai
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ZEHRA-DILSHA
Z: “I did what I shouldn’t have done. But I am very sorry, please forgive me.”
▶️I liked it very much that Zehra asked for forgiveness from Dilsha. It’s the only right thing to do. #Hercai
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ZEHRA-HAZAR
I liked of course how Hazar extended his hand to Zehra after he overheard how she honestly apologized to Dilsha. As I wrote in my previous thread, we as an audience saw how immense Hazar’s love for Dilsha was and that he never probably overcame that night+ #Hercai
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+as such plus everyone around them kept talking about this great love story they shared. But to be fair to Hazar, he himself never gave Zehra a moment to doubt his faithfulness to her. #Hercai
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I hope the writers stay true to this and make Hazar, yes, care for D., but will let him stay with Zehra and his family. H. gave me the impression that what he wants the most is M’s happiness, which only D. can give back to him and also this only to a certain extent. #Hercai
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Also in the conversation between Dilsha and Hazar he says: “At least, let my son, from now on, have happy moments.” He talks about his son, not “their” son in the sense of a couple that is still together and that would make their son happy together. #Hercai
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FUSÜN BEING AZRA’S DAUGHTER
So, Fusün seems to be the mother of Azra. Let’s remember Azize thought Fusün was dead in the first place. She never suspected her to be alive nor to be the note sender. Did Azize think in fact Fusün died while giving birth to Azra? #Hercai
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Or did she have an accident (therefore the stick) but was able to give birth to the child which Azize took? At what point did Azize take Azra to give to Dilsha? The timing is very confusing in this flashback. #Hercai
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Bcs in the 1 flashback D. asks straight away for Miran and Azize says he is dead. In the 2 flashbacks it seems that Miran died only 3 years later. So either the 1 flashback was wrong or Dilsha was in a coma for 3 years? If Azra is Fusun’s daughter she had Harun later? #Hercai
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But Harun looks much older than Azra.
Off ya, many questions here. #Hercai
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PILLOW FIGHT
Let me post this again bcs I love this parallel so much.
The hands that were once cold now tickling Miran and tease him. #Hercai
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GOOSEBUMPS WORDS
Mahfuz: “It’s easy to spill blood, it’s hard to stop.” #Hercai
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AZIZE TO CIHAN
A: “Either you’re the killer or you know who the killer is.”
▶️ I can’t wait how much time Azize will take to figure out it was Yaren. #Hercai
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REYMIR ROOM
Well, what can we say about ReyMir’s room except that we love it, of course. As you all might have noticed, thank u at this point also for pointing it out @notmiransgirl1 the dominant colors in their room is GREEN. #Hercai
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"Green as the color of life, renewal, nature&energy, is associated with meanings of growth, harmony, freshness, safety, fertility (...) with the color green’s association with renewal, growth&hope."(CIT)
Beautiful how their baby’s name is incorporated in their room😍 #Hercai
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But this was not the main detail that caught my eyes the most, it was the doves of peace that are on ReyMir’s desk. Have u seen them? Do u all remember M’s sentence in ep.29 “Because it was you who taught me how to hope” and then freeing the dove of peace together? #Hercai
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Now there is a pair of doves on their desk. And it’s two bcs them it represents them as a couple and two bcs Reyyan taught Miran to hope!
For me a very, very, very meaningful detail. #Hercai
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REYYAN CHECKING DILSHA’S ROOM
Reyyan checks one last time that everything is ok at Dilsha’s room and we can notice that she put white lilies there.
A beautiful detail is attributed to Reyyan’s character giving this flower to her mother-in-law because + #Hercai
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“white lilies symbolize a rejuvenation of the soul. They can represent purity, commitment and rebirth, which is why they’re often chosen as Sympathy Flowers.” (CIT.)
She really tries hard to make Dilsha as comfortable as she can in her new home. #Hercai
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Helping her to be “reborn” as she did with her son.
Will she be successful? #Hercai
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REYYAN-DILSHA-MIRAN
I found it heartwarming how R. tried to talk to D. about Miran. And the way it must have hurt R. when D. said “I don’t know my son’s favorite dish, I don’t know his favorite subject at school” just for us audience to know that probably+ #Hercai
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+also Reyyan herself does not know the answers to these questions. Also the fact that Dilsha changed abruptly the subject hurted my heart. And Dilsha follows Miran “only” when she hears that he will go and pick up Azra. The tears in Miran’s eyes in this scene. #Hercai
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WRONG CAR
Miran not being suspicious at all about the car the guard brought him!?
▶️Ama dona B. they didn’t want to destroy an audi for the occasion 🤣 #Hercai
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DILSHA’S STATE OF MIND
I guess we all agree that the look Dilsha gave ReyMir while looking at them outside the Umut konak was strange and even maybe a bit hostile/disturbing. D. sees a young couple in love, who even is her long lost son and her daughter-in-law + #Hercai
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but she is not able to smile or show any kind of positive emotion. Later D. witnesses the Azize-Reyyan scene and how she gets irritated but D. is not able to process that Reyyan was trying to call someone. She lashes out at her telling her not to call her “mum” being #Hercai
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“no one to her”. Although this is hard to watch I think we need to wait in which directions they will take Dilsha’s character as such. We saw in the fragman that Dilsha attacks Azize (rightfully) but for me I don’t want to make a final verdict about her just yet. #Hercai
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If she is going to be hostile towards Reyyan and will create tension between ReyMir, it’s going to be interesting to watch Miran’s struggle between his mother and the love of his life (as if his problems were not enough). #Hercai
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Furthermore, I can’t wait to see Hazar’s reaction to all this too. I mean, will it be the time that he man’s up and will defend his daughter against his “beloved” Dilsha? #Hercai
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Bcs also if D. suffered a lot, it’s high time Hazar protects his daughter, even if that means going against the mother of his son. Drama would be loading everyone ... #Hercai
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THE COAL PARALLEL
The coal Fusün is playing with is a parallelism on how the episode in 51 ended. Again we see Fusun metaphorically speaking, throwing Azize back into the fire she herself started. #Hercai
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SMALL “LOGIC” CORRECTIONS
So, Azize is with Mahmoud in the car, they are being followed and suddenly we see Azize going alone inside of the room where Fusün waits. What happened to Mahmoud in the meantime? He just let Azize be taken by the men of Fusün? #Hercai
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I made a very big critique in my thread of ep. 52 about the lack of viewership guidance, which, thankfully, improved a lot again. But also here, there could have been a mini scene in which we see how Mahm. is taken away from A. and she herself is taken into the room. #Hercai
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FÜSUN
F: “I am sorry for the girl you know, I only needed Miran. But this is fate, what to do?”
▶️Also here a mother is about to kill her own child without knowing it. #Hercai
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A very clever parallel to Azize wanting to kill Hazar, now we have the other villain who was about to kill her own daughter too. And a very smooth transition to remind everyone who the real villain is in this story: #Hercai
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Azize: “Your daughter is alive. And only I can tell where she is. Your daughter in exchange for my grandson.” #Hercai
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FUSÜN FINALLY CRYING
It was very interesting to see Fusün finally cry by the end of the episode. But did she finally cry for her dead son or her alive daughter? Do Harun and Azra share the same dad? #Hercai
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Or did/does also Fusün prefer one child over the other (parallel to Nashu and Cihan/Hazar) for a specific reason?
It always seemed that Harun was struggling for his mother’s attention/love. #Hercai
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MIRAN GOING ALONE TO THE AIRPORT
I was first irritated by the fact that Miran was going alone to the airport. Why wouldn't Reyyan go with him? Ok, we can say Reyyan stayed home in order to rest. But Dilsha herself could go, no? But then it became clear. #Hercai
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Shortly before the accident happens we see how D. awakes from her sleep and senses something is wrong.
But did she sense it for Azra or for Miran? #Hercai
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AZIZE MOST PRECIOUS PERSON IS MIRAN
I was wondering since the fragman came out why Fusün says “Miran is your most precious (...) and in the episode even adds “He is not your grandson, he is your son.” #Hercai
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While watching the live episode I asked myself, why we got the flashback with the butterfly and Miran giving the pin to Azize for mother’s day. I even got a bit angry for why they had to make it also a butterfly like it is for Reyyan. But let’s get there later. #Hercai
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We see from the flashback that M. in fact always saw A. as a mother figure, not a grandmother. He bought her a gift for mother’s day:“The teacher said that butterflies do not die, they are always reborn. U never die, be always by my side. Happy mother’s day, grandma.” #Hercai
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We see how he hugs Azize and how she let the pin fall to the floor. I read that many think young Azize was too harsh with Miran in these flashbacks, but remember she was “tender” with him only in the first years to sneakily gain his trust. #Hercai
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Here he is already going to school, so here revenge&brainwash started.
And yet we can understand from this flashback that M. was the closest to a son to A. as she ever had as we see her need of letting the butterfly fall to the floor in order to not get attached to it. #Hercai
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It seemed to be that she felt something for this child but mashed it down immediately. Bcs we see now that she valued that pin, otherwise why did she conserve it?A., in her contorted mind, was attached the most to M.although she did not want it/didn't want to feel it. #Hercai
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Fusün understood this and used it to attack her at her heart. Thus, her words make sense why she attacked Miran and not Hazar or Nashu. #Hercai
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BUTTERFLY AZIZE/REYYAN
So, as I said I got a bit angry about the fact that they also chose the butterfly for Azize-Miran as for Reyyan-Miran. But once I understood the meaning of little M’s sentence, it became clear: “butterflies do not die, they are always reborn." #Hercai
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In fact both women at a very young age died metaphorically and were reborn in a way. But whereas Ayse became Azize and let the bad and sad thing that happened to her change her life, Reyyan was born again too, but she never let hatred blacken her heart. #Hercai
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It shows that all of us, from the bad/traumatic experiences we live through during our lives, are "reborn" at some point or better continue to live with our pain. #Hercai
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And we can choose if we let this experience affect us in a bad way and live revengefully, or if we are able to let it go and not let bad things turn us into people we are not. #Hercai
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OVERALL COMMENT
I liked the overall episode, I must say. I even watched it twice! And this didn’t happen for some time now. The episode gave me the feeling that we were really embarking a new journey with ReyMir with all the (new) problems they are facing. #Hercai
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If they will be able to smartfully take it from here, they can go on with the story bcs still many things are untold. I only wished they would stop adding characters as such but working with the ones they have&building up their characters&their backstories in depth. #Hercai
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And with this I say: Thank you all for reading and a virtual hug to you. 🦋🦁❤️ #Hercai
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If you ask for news about me
I have a couple of words to tell u, wholeheartedly:
I will enter the land with ur love,
I will come out of the soil with ur love
~ Ömer H. Siirleri
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Again I need to open my thread with a note.
As I said in my last thread, I don’t approve of Dilsha being alive bcs it brought so much inconsistency into the story as such. But having said that, I can’t deny that I was moved of course by the reunion of mother and son. #Hercai
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Who would not have been? The way Miran is once more abandoned and lonely in front of a closed door. The struggle and begging of being loved really broke my heart. I also liked the actress who plays Dilsha so far. #Hercai
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I have to make a note before writing about this episode. I was the person (still am) who thinks that bringing back D. was a bad idea. I repeat it that for me the writing of S1 and S2 is like tossed into the bin with that plot evolution, but they had to invent something+ #Hercai
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+ to be able to continue to prolong the general story after Aslan’s story did not work out. All the suffering of M., all the crying seems for “nothing” for two seasons and we viewers are also kind of fed up in seeing him cry all the time when with the upcoming episodes+ #Hercai
So, I am late but I need to say two or three things.
Ppl who follow me know I was against D’s resurrection plot because like this S1 and S2 were written for nothing. But Dilsha is here and I read comments about Miran being a crying baby + #Hercai#ReyMir
+which is true but the problem here is that he cried too much for her loss in S1&S2, thus we are kind of fed up. But now comes my famous BUT:
This man just discovered that his dead thought mother is alive. The woman he in first place took revenge for bc she was+ #Hercai#ReyMir
+ apparently raped (lie) and killed (lie). The man who was mentally abused for 27y by his grandmother and who nearly drove him crazy. Miran lived so many moments of abandonment and loss and for what: for a big, fat overall LIE. + #Hercai#ReyMir
Love,that is not real,has no passion. Its fire turns into embers, it doesn’t not smell. The day, the night, the moon&year burn without sun, light, comfort&sleep.
Ömer Hayyam
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PRAISE
The praise in this episode goes foremost to Ebru because she portrayed Reyyan so realistically like a woman who truly lost her unborn child. I was in awe and pain watching her along the episode, all her breakdowns and tears were so real. #Hercai
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Of course also Akın took his part and did his part masterfully, but he rightfully was the one who stood aside in this specific episode that needed to be about Reyyan’s pain and thus concentrated on Ebru. #Hercai
Hi everyone
This is going to be a thread that is different from all the other threads I wrote so far. I thought for a long time if or not to write about it, but in the end I cannot shut up. This is not a happy thread, so if u are not in a good mood, skip this one. #Hercai
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I can't hide with what kind of disappointment ep. 52 left me on Friday night. It was not only because of the HUGE ReyMir mistake that was done, but also because of many other illogical, incoherent and inconsistent writing mistakes that were committed especially in this+ #Hercai
THANK YOU
First of all I want to say thank you because from week to week more ppl seem to read my thread. I remember when I started and it had barely 10 likes and no comments. #Hercai
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So thank you very much to each one of you who read it all, only part of it and also the ones who give up after three tweets.😂 #Hercai