We cannot wait for some relative of one of our "guardians" to have a personal crisis before they see how Health Care needs to be addressed. And how flawed the GOP anti-solutions are.
Or, like Cheney, to recognize the inanity/flaw of GOP stance on gays, because of his daughter.
We are governed by fiat, & personal proclivities & as opposed to wisdom & insight into real problems, with real ideas, that address not politician's need [lust] for power but the country's need for systemic solutions.
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It is so obvious, yet so hard, because of this failure.
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So much of that so utterly unnecessary.
More than just the normal sorrows of life, the suffering inflicted on the country (& world) due to such illicit use of power, implementing policies & programs that incubate this suffering.
@tommy_pane Here is the deal T.
It gives me no pleasure to keep at you at a fundamental level. I have tried to engage you many ways.
But at root, you ignore so much in order to maintain your equilibrium. & in fact you have to. I get it.
These are not policy issues we are debating.
@tommy_pane Your insane ability to ask the wrong next question is, at an analytical level, a curiosity.
And etc.
This one about pedophiles is a perfect example... Follow the thread.
We have gone from your self equivalence w the Q people, and that superior level of crazy...worked through
@tommy_pane 3/ your various attempts to maintain some weird position, which remains occluded. Now, having been blocked at the level of "you don't really care, why not"... which is a stupid line for you to take, in general, and specifically w me. Now you are on to Hollywood and etc..
This vote is not a defeat. It is a perfect opportunity to highlight in unambiguous terms that the Republican Party is devoted not to the country,America and its interests, but they are in service to A Con. A Lie. And a Liar.
If we cannot make this case, then yes the game is over.
The Republicans overreached. It is imperative to recognize they were not voting *for Trump* they voted for their survival as a party.
With sharp decisive strategic moves this can be turned into a rout. This is Napoleon attacking Russia in the winter.
The defeat is in the move.
Let’s not do the standard democratic move and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
There are so many metaphors and examples in analogies to be brought to bear. This is not the time to admit defeat.
That would be to give them the victory.
The impeachment trial is not a vote on the merits of the case presented. The vote is about establishing a Lie as the current organizing principle of the Republican Party.
Until this Lie, & the Liar are addressed & renounced we are at risk.
As if further proof were necessary:
So just a collection of examples as they show up
Here is one.
Once the lie has become the reality. The raison d'etre, it will start manifesting in ways that first will cause a headshake of disbelief, like this report
Later it will start showing up in ways that are not obvious, not clearly tied to the underlying lie. It will be pointed out in articles and investigations, but likely won't break onto the public consciousness until the next viral outbreak happens. Some violent redux of Jan6.
When you boil Trump (& the consequent Trumpism) down to its essentials at root it is Lying.
Trump has made a life of being a liar.
It is "Trump Rule#1" expressed years ago "Trump is a liar. He does not simply tell lies, he IS a liar. Thus what he does is quintessentially a lie".
Now we are embroiled in an impeachment trial, the consequence of the ultimate Donald Trump lie.
That he won the election.
This is so fundamental a lie, that when pressed, as Trump has done, & married to a demagoguery, as he had utilized to enflame his believers, you get
what we got. A mob. Playing at an insurrection.
All because of a Lie. Propounded by a liar.
Here then is the first brick in the edifice that is the newly submerged & subjugated Republican Party:
@tommy_pane Forget it. It is an analogy/story not a point.
Basically, you ask questions not to learn anything, but to divert and ensare the conversation, try to insert confusion, not understanding. Its your way.
The q's here are not difficult. In fact most of them we have gone over multiple
@tommy_pane 2/ times. The most recent , your strange, but actually transparent, fetish about "Tell me the EXACT statue that Trump violated"... is perfect example.
You don't need, nor care about the exact code. If you did, you would simply have looked up the case that M.Cohen was convicted
@tommy_pane 3/ under. The point isnt the exact statute. That is your way of diverting the conversation into endless minutia that makes no diff to the argument. It’s a lawyers trick at best. It is a fraud and essentially, when used in this way, a lie.