Starting to wonder how many virus samples are sitting in freezers waiting to be sequenced.
The newest pangolin CoV in GISAID (EPI_ISL_610156) was collected in Yunnan in 2017. Someone implied that this was proof of the 2019 Guangdong pangolin CoV, but it's quite different...
The Yunnan pangolin CoV sequence is full of gaps, missing front half of the Spike, no RBD to even compare with the SARS2-like RBD in the Guangdong pangolin CoV.
Not sure why anyone would think this Yunnan pangolin CoV is useful to verifying the history of the GD pangolin CoV.
Meanwhile, the Guangdong pangolin CoV authors who haven't provided any of the novel raw data mentioned in their May 2020 @PLOSPathogens paper just released more short sequence fragments for another paper? ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/popset?DbFrom=…
And the other group of authors @nature who published the same Guangdong pangolin CoV sequence built primarily with the same dataset as the @PLoSPathogens group - still don't know when the correction will be made despite 101K article accesses... nature.com/articles/s4158…
A group that directly handled the 2019 Guangdong pangolins affirmed that none of the 20 caregivers who handled the sick pangolin reported being infected.
Would it be irrational to request that before any more bat x pangolin speculation gets published in peer-reviewed journals, an independent bioinformatics team is convened to check all of the data and sample histories of the Guangdong pangolin CoV?
The data we analyzed is public. Literally anyone can check it and verify that what we found about the GD pangolin with the SARS2-like Spike RBD is true.
Starting to get a bit worried about the processes by which journals verify the accuracy of their papers. If the authors can’t produce the data for months and months after publication, is the strategy to keep asking for the next 5 years?
Got the data you said you had yet?
To the experts convened by the @WHO checking frozen meat for the origins of covid-19. #PopsicleOrigins
Does the team know that the WIV found 8 other SARS viruses between 2012-2015 in a mine where people died from viral pneumonia? Got those sequences?
I continue to be shocked that even the basics aren’t being checked.
The basics.
Get the data, sample history, methods. Check if you can independently reproduce the work (genome, figs) using only the original data provided.
If data isn’t shared, don’t rely on their findings.
We need peer review to become open for at least all of the covid-related papers during the course of this pandemic.
Scientists and editors are all stretched to the limit, so we need to be able to quickly see whether proper peer review was performed, if the basics were checked.
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“scientists expressed surprise and even disbelief that the further investigations, into both the first patient's contact history and the supply chain to the Huanan market that the WHO sought, had apparently not already been performed by China.” cnn.com/2021/02/21/chi…
“specialist Daniel Lucey.. said it was “frankly implausible” that such testing had not been done. “My question is why would it not have been done? It was known to be necessary and it’s in China’s scientific.. public health.. national security interest”” scmp.com/news/china/sci…
This would be like if in Stranger Things, the protagonists all neglected to investigate the local National Laboratory while searching for the inter-dimensional gateway (source of spillover).
Am I getting this right? The @WHO convened team heard from an index case that there was a 2nd market but because the meeting ended, they didn’t get details or even the name of the market.
Also, before the WHO-convened team went to Wuhan, Chinese scientists had already tested 10,000s of animal samples including from around Wuhan city and Hubei province - all negative for SARS2. Can the team access the data in higher resolution? Which markets and farms were checked?
A timeline of when results were known would also be exceedingly helpful. The @WSJ reported on this in May 2020, eg OIE was informed on Jan 31, 2020 that no animals at the Huanan market tested positive for SARS2. wsj.com/articles/china…
Feb 9, we heard from WHO-convened team (which is 50% scientists in China, 50% international) they were going to stop looking into "extremely unlikely" lab origins & start investigating #PopsicleOrigins
One team member said this decision was to "respect" the Chinese counterparts.
Feb 22, one of WHO-convened team members says the COVID-19 virus could've come from Thailand, even naming one market.
DESPITE closest relatives to SARS-CoV-2 being from China
DESPITE the virus in Thailand not even using the same human receptor 🤯
Jan 2020 China said the virus likely came from wild animals sold at the Wuhan seafood market. May 2020 they said the market was just a later cluster, not the origin.
Since then, they've suggested that covid-19 was imported into China through cold chain.
On Jan 15, 2021, the previous US State Department released this Facts Sheet on the origins of COVID-19 raising concerns about SARS + other pathogen research at the WIV.
However, it was swiftly archived by the new administration.
On @FaceTheNation ex-Deputy National Security Adviser Matt Pottinger said that this had been "scrubbed by every department within every bureau within the State Department, was looked at very carefully by the NSC staff, intelligence officers, HHS" cbsnews.com/video/former-d…