Now the problem here is the source of your quote also said that Heath called it a just a Common Market while saying he claimed no loss of sovereignty.
@987_charles@WarRocketAjaxUK And the problem with that is that Heath doesn't call it a Common Market he uses the term Community, and he believes that the surrender of sovereignty is something that should be recognised and made clear. That it was a cost worth paying.
@987_charles@WarRocketAjaxUK And your second problem is that Wilson then published Cnmd 3301, which details all the sovereignty that is involved in joining the EEC.
@987_charles@WarRocketAjaxUK Your 3rd problem is that the document that breaks down all the sovereignty that is involved is the standard reference for the Heath government when referring to sovereignty.
@987_charles@WarRocketAjaxUK Your 4th problem is Heath literally publishes a leaflet explaining there is a loss of sovereignty.
@987_charles@WarRocketAjaxUK Your 5th problem is the Treaty of Rome is available and the loss of sovereignty is *REALLY CLEAR* as highlighted by Heath here when he says that the implications for sovereignty in the economic field are clearly defined.
@987_charles@WarRocketAjaxUK Your 6th problem is he repeats this a year later and argues that sovereignty is to be used.
@987_charles@WarRocketAjaxUK Your 7th problem is that he says that we are contributing sovereignty literally during the debates in 1971.
@987_charles@WarRocketAjaxUK Your 8th problem is, he does it more than once. Arguing that sovereignty is to be used.
@987_charles@WarRocketAjaxUK Your 9th problem is it is really clear, and it's been really clear since Cmnd 3301 was published, and there are debates about it.
@987_charles@WarRocketAjaxUK And it is literally ridiculous to claim Heath lied to parliament about sovereignty. It's there in the treaty and the debates.
@987_charles@WarRocketAjaxUK While Heath does most of the work talking about sovereignty for Macmillan, his ministers do it when he becomes PM. Like Reginald Maudling saying the erosion of sovereignty was expected and desired.
@987_charles@WarRocketAjaxUK And he also says that it's interesting that they should want to break sovereignty into "material sovereignty", and that maybe they should do that.
@987_charles@WarRocketAjaxUK And by 1966 "material sovereignty" becomes "essential sovereignty", again Heath on hand to say people should be told...because...you know...
@987_charles@WarRocketAjaxUK But something else has happened in 1966. France has made an agreement that says that anything they think is an important interest should then become unanimity.
@987_charles@WarRocketAjaxUK And far from glossing over national sovereignty in the White paper, he clarifies where he thinks it has been glossed over in the draft.
@987_charles@WarRocketAjaxUK It doesn't say there is no loss, as you claimed, it says There is no question of any *erosion* of essential national sovereignty, but it doesn't stop there is makes clear there is a "sharing" or sovereignty.
@987_charles@WarRocketAjaxUK But the White paper is supposed to be about breaking down the details of the deal, not the sovereignty involved, because that was included in Cmnd 3301.
And nobody is questioning that.
@987_charles@WarRocketAjaxUK It's not just Conservative debates, sovereignty discussion is everywhere, and strangely enough, nobody is saying there is no loss.
@987_charles@WarRocketAjaxUK And after 3 years where nobody said that it didn't involve sovereignty, including Heath who published leaflets saying it does, his foreign secretary, his chief negotiator, and cabinet members have literally made films about it...
@987_charles@WarRocketAjaxUK People are protesting the fact he is "celebrating the loss of Britain's sovereignty".
@987_charles@WarRocketAjaxUK And in some weird world people claim that Heath said there was no loss of sovereignty of national television and it doesn't make the news....there are no reports in January of him saying it.
Very, very, odd.
@987_charles@WarRocketAjaxUK His argument in 70: Sovereignty is to be used
His argument in 71: Sovereignty is to be used.
There is absolutely no need for a minority to pressure the supermarkets into buying stock with a short shelf life that won't be sold, John, but all is not lost mate...
...Chris has some really good ideas about solving this problem, and I believe he might even have some big contacts in Oman and Bahrein who are willing to buy tonnes of our stock.
There is actually another way, and I think it's in the contract. It's time for the Commission to work with the memberstates the UK and with AZ in terms of working out how to boost supply.
The AZ contracts can't be filled, arguing over today's supply is just not productive.
Or do Brexiteer politicians get a free pass for treating people as if they are thick and making all Brexiteers look thick, because it allows them play victim when people react and call them thick?