"As they say in TV parlance, you're on the air."

Attorney Albert Watkins to his client Jacob 'QAnon Shaman' Chansley, a day after he was in fact on the air with 60 Minutes+.

Watkins is referring to a telephone conference now.

Live-tweet ahead podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the…
Watkins rattles off the civil, criminal and congressional actions and inquiries since the Jan. 6th siege.

He calls for a shifting of the dialogue from a "lynch mob" mentality, a phrase Watkins has repeatedly used to describe the *reaction* to the noose-brandishing pro-Trump mob.
Watkins:

"Jacob Chansley is 33 years old. He does not have a passport. He has zero criminal history."

Save for his military history, Chansley has never been out of the country, he adds.
Watkins says of the "hundreds of thousands" of Trump supporters who showed up at the Ellipse:

"They are our fellow Americans. There are too many of them to hold them in disdain."
Watkins denies the prosecutors' allegation that his client led the charge on Jan. 6.

He says that "miles and miles of footage" shows Chansley was part of the "third wave" of the mob who went down to the Capitol.
"There's no police barricade. There's no police line. The doors are open."

— Watkins claims a Capitol police officer held the door open when Chansley walked through it.

The judge pushes back at that assertion.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Kimberly Louise Paschall interjects and says Watkins is wrong about that, but she says that she will wait for the government's turn to respond.
Watkins calls his client a "self-published writer" of a "fiction piece."

"I'm not going to tell you that it's a great book."

The judge chuckles.
Watkins on his client's tome: "It's an important book because it shows you where his mind was before the conspiracy theory."

He claims that his client—who called Pence a traitor & left him a note "Justice is coming"—is a practitioner of ahimsa, non-violence toward living things
Watkins, in sharp contrast to his client on 60 Minutes+, blames his client's actions on falsely believing Trump:

"He believed, wrongfully, that that gave him license to go into the Capitol."

Chansley told CBS that he's still loyal to Trump and believes the election was stolen.
Watkins denies that the flagpole that Chansley carried was a spear that he could have used as a weapon.

"The government is asserting that my client is a danger," he says.

On his flight risk:

"Mr. Chansley is internationally recognized and recognizable."
"He's not blaming this on Trump," Watkins says, shortly after saying his client answered Trump's call to go into the Capitol.
Watkins compares Chansley to "Forrest Gump."
Assistant U.S. Attorney Kimberly Louise Paschall is up now, and she refutes the assertion that the doors were open when Chansley entered.
Paschall: "There is absolutely no way that the defendant could have thought the police were escorting him into the building."

People were breaking through the window and the alarm was activated.

"It's just factually not borne out by the evidence."
Paschall:

"Finally, there's the video by the New Yorker of the defendant on the Senate floor."

The officer asks the defendant multiple times in the video to leave, the prosecutor notes.

That's when Chansley left Pence the note: "It's only a matter of time. Justice is coming."
Paschall:

"I don't think there's much debate over what the evidence in this case is."

It's about the interpretation of that evidence.
Paschall says she won't "belabor" the point of the weapon:

Chansley carried a 6-foot-long spear when he was near the officer.

Judge: It fits the definition of a dangerous weapon.

AUSA: It does, your honor.
Paschall pivots to Chansley's recent press interview:

"We know how the defendant feels to this day about some of these issue because he has spoken to the press."
Prosecutor Paschall on Jacob Chansley's continuing beliefs in post-election conspiracy theories and the view that the Biden admin is illegitimate:

"We know the defendant still believes that because he told @60Minutes as much."
Paschall: "This man has purposely drawn attention to himself."
The 60 Minutes+ interview continues to backfire on Chansley.

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Chansley never did, and as seems clear here, stands by it.



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It must be covered, critically.
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