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@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 Is that like women (on average) choosing for men (on average) to do most of the work when labor both in and out of the home is considered?

That there is a #GenderedLaborGap that is seldom considered, which contributes to the so-called pay gap and many other social phenomena.

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 Consider the above and consider that women initiate over 50% of the breakups and nearly 70% of the divorces (web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rose…, fig. 1, p. 34) and that "wives’ high earnings were negatively associated with marital quality" (web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rose…, p. 19).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 "[H]eterosexual couples were especially likely to marry if the man had high earnings. … [A]mong heterosexual couples, earnings between partners became more unequal as the couples transitioned from cohabitation to marriage" (web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rose…, p. 5).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 "[T]he data suggest that married women sometimes stay out of the labor force so as to avoid a situation where they would become the primary breadwinner" (faculty.chicagobooth.edu/emir.kamenica/…, p. 596).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 "[W]hen the wife earns more than the husband, the likelihood of divorce increases by about 6[%]… [and s]ince 12[%] of couples in the sample get divorced, this … implies that having the wife earn more than the husband increases the likelihood of divorce by 50[%]" (Id., 602).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 These are women choosing to work less than their male counterparts in relationships and the men in those relationships face divorce if those men do not perform enough paid work. However, this trend exists outside of married relationships in the wider soiciety, unfortunately.

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 If you add up both the unpaid labor and paid labor, on average, men work more total time than women creating a #GenderedLaborGap pursuant to (as an example) the @BLS_gov's 2017 American Time Use Survey (bls.gov/news.release/a…) and @pewresearch data (pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018…).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch American Time Use Survey (with 2017 as an example) shows that women on average are not spending enough more time with their kids, doing chores, or anything else to justify women's lack of time working.

On average, men just work more in America (considering both paid and unpaid).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Let's do the math:

Table 8A, column 1: Men: Women:
Household activities: 1.31 2.34
Caring for household: 1.01 1.85
Work-related activities: 5.46 3.37
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Total: 7.78 7.56

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Now comparing the men from Table 8B to the women from Table 8C (where the youngest child is under 6):

Women care for and help household members 2.08 more hours per day than men in the most extreme case presented by Table 8A, but men work 6.43 hours more per day than women.

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Similarly, comparing the men from Table 8B to the women from Table 8C (where the youngest child is under 6), women do household activities for 1.91 more hours per day than men in the most extreme case presented by Table 8A, but, again, men work 6.43 hours more per day than women.

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Let's do the math: Men: Women:
Household activities: 1.26 3.17
Caring for household: 1.42 3.36
Work-related activities: 6.57 0.00
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Total: 9.25 6.53

Who is doing more?

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch By comparing the men from Table 8B to the women from Table 8C (using the youngest child under 6 column), we see the situation where women are unemployed and spending the most time caring not only for the children but the whole family.

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Other @BLS_gov data (see below) indicates that 61% of families have both parents employed (bls.gov/opub/ted/2017/…), but does not indicate whether the mothers are working full-time or part-time.

The American Time Use Survey does have an answer in Table 8B.

Let's check that out.

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Let's do the math:

Table 8B, column 1: Men: Women:
Household activities: 1.23 1.90
Caring for household: 0.93 1.52
Work-related activities: 6.35 5.01
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Total: 8.51 8.43

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Maybe women are forced to stay home with their kids and that causes the gap. If true, women with no kids should be working the same amount as men in the workforce as there is no reason not to since there is no reason to be on call and no extra household or child care duties.

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Let's do that math:

Table 8A, column 4: Men: Women:
Household activities: 1.54 2.21
Caring for household: 0.07 0.07
Work-related activities: 4.11 2.83
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Total: 5.72 5.11

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Consider just workers:

Table 8B, column 4: Men: Women:
Household activities: 1.34 1.80
Caring for household: 0.04 0.05
Work-related activities: 6.17 5.29
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Total: 7.55 7.14

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Whether you consider all currently childless folks (Table 8A) or just the ones working (Table 8B), women spend less time on paid labor and related activities and women spend less time working considering both unpaid domestic labor and paid labor added together. The pattern holds.

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Since the so-called "wage gap" is such a big problem, @HWohmahn and @kkriztinaa, why don't women work more to make the so-called "wage gap" disappear? Per the @BLS_gov's American Time Use Survey, domestic duties aren't holding women back. Men can do the work so why can't women?

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch "[O]nce we control only for one variable—hours worked—and compare men and women both working 40-hours per week in 2017, more than one-third of the raw 18.2% pay gap reported by the BLS disappears" (fee.org/articles/a-new…).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Did you know that “unmarried, childless women under 30 who live in cities” already out-earn men pursuant to @TIME Magazine (content.time.com/time/business/…), @usnews & World Report (usnews.com/debate-club/sh…), and @PolitiFact's @PunditFact (politifact.com/punditfact/sta…)?

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact "What’s especially interesting is that women working 35-39 hours per week [in 2017] earned 107% of men’s earnings for those weekly hours, i.e., there was a 7% gender earnings gap in favor of female workers for that cohort" (fee.org/articles/a-new…).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact According to the @BLS_gov, "[o]n the days they worked, employed men worked 49 minutes more than employed women. … However, even among full-time workers (those usually working 35 hours or more per week), men worked more per day than women—8.4 hours, compared with 7.9 hours."

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact Pursuant to @BLS_gov data in the American Time Use Survey, the average man is getting the equivalent of over 26½ (8-hour) days of experience more than the average woman is getting on the job (bls.gov/news.release/a…, p. 2).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact Dividing the total hours worked into 8-hour workdays, using the @BLS_gov data from the American Time Use Survey, it's almost as if men (on average) are working 13 months a year to women's less than 12 months per year (bls.gov/news.release/a…, p. 2).

This adds up over time.

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact Now, looking only at full-time workers, pursuant to @BLS_gov data in the American Time Use Survey, the average man is getting the equivalent of over 16 (8-hour) days of experience more than the average woman is getting on the job (bls.gov/news.release/a…, p. 2).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact Dividing the total hours worked into 8-hour workdays, using the @BLS_gov data from the American Time Use Survey, it's almost as if men (on average) are working nearly 12½ months a year to women's less than 12 (bls.gov/news.release/a…, p. 2).

Albeit slower, this adds up fast.

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact Women being less productive than men (and that contributing to the pay gap) is apparently not news.

@LexyTopping writes "[m]en should work less and their employers and the government should help them to do so in order to close the gender pay gap" (google.com/amp/s/amp.theg…).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping On page 5 of _The State of Pay: Demystifying the Gender Pay Gap_ (May 2018), Institute for Public Policy Research writes as part of their 3rd recommendation that "[c]hanging men’s working behaviour is a crucial component of closing the gender pay gap" (ippr.org/files/2018-05/…).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping "To reduce the gender stratification of full and part-time roles, and reduce the maternity penalty, employers could… introduce dedicated, paid paternity leave…, to advertise roles as flexible by default, and to encourage men to partake in job share arrangements." Id., p. 5.

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping The @IPPR continues stating that the pay gap "doesn’t take into account any of the drivers of different pay levels, such as age, qualifications, experience or seniority, or type of work" (ippr.org/files/2018-05/…, p. 6).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR "As such, a firm-level gender pay gap does not indicate discriminatory practices, and is not unlawful" (ippr.org/files/2018-05/…, p. 6).

Is it reasonable to expect (and get) more pay than men (on average) despite working less than men (on average), @HWohmahn and @kkriztinaa?

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR This wraps right around to the demands cisheterosexual women make upon the men that those women want to date, which influences men's working habits (except for MGTOW who are the men who opt-out) and, thus, influence the so-called "wage gap."

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR Agreeing with Limbaugh, @ArwaM is "struck by how many empowered women regress to the 1950s when it comes to marriage. [Women] fight for equality at work, but still have traditional expectations when it comes to men proposing with expensive diamond rings"(theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/c…).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM "In the US, …among 22-to 29-year-olds, there are 5.5 million college-educated women, and 4.1 million college-educated men. …[There is] a gap in the UK too. Last year, a record number of women outnumbered men, with nearly 58,000 more women than men" (theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2…).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM "If there are more graduate women than men, who are those men with lower levels of education dating if …educated women won’t consider them?…[W]e don’t talk about their dating challenges the same way we talk about the challenges faced by educated women"(theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2…).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM "A good man is hard to find, especially in this economy. The country is facing a crisis of broke dudes, according to new research from Cornell University — and it’s left successful ladies single and disgruntled" (nypost.com/2019/09/25/wom…).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM The societal impact of younger women getting better educated and earning higher wages (than men) may be "declines in marriage [due to] a [corresponding] shortage of economically-attractive men for unmarried women to marry" (eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2… and onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.111…).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM Women also need richer men to date because women getting better educated than men and women working less than men is causing "[w]omen [to] hold nearly two-thirds of the outstanding student debt in the United States—almost $929 billion as of early-2019" (aauw.org/research/deepe…).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM According to @pewresearch, "nearly equal share of men and women say a man needs to be able to provide for his family to be a good husband or partner (72% and 71%, respectively)" (pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017…).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM Women are the ones who choose if a relationship happens or doesn't as shown by @colttaine's sigmoid function (; ) using @okcupid's statistics and other similar historical data (web.archive.org/web/2017033013…).

Men complete to be selected.

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM @colttaine @okcupid Despite working less than men (on average) and getting supposedly less pay than men (on average), one wonders how women command more purchasing power than men.

Any ideas, @HWohmahn and @kkriztinaa? Where is the money coming from?

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM @colttaine @okcupid More to the point (from an economic perspective), Amy Nelson, in @Inc, writes "[w]omen drive 70-80 percent of all consumer purchasing, through a combination of their buying power and influence" (inc.com/amy-nelson/wom…) citing @Bloomberg (bloomberg.com/company/storie…).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM @colttaine @okcupid @Inc @Bloomberg Bridget Brennan, in @Bloomberg, writes "[w]omen drive 70-80% of all consumer purchasing, through a combination of their buying power and influence" (bloomberg.com/company/storie…).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM @colttaine @okcupid @Inc @Bloomberg Bridget Brennan, in @Bloomberg, clarifies that "[i]nfluence means that even when a woman isn’t paying for something herself, she is often the influence or veto vote behind someone else’s purchase"(bloomberg.com/company/storie…).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM @colttaine @okcupid @Inc @Bloomberg Michael J. Silverstein and Kate Sayre, in @HarvardBiz, write "[w]omen now drive the world economy" controlling "about $20 trillion in annual consumer spending, and that figure could climb as high as $28 trillion in the next five years" (hbr.org/2009/09/the-fe…).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM @colttaine @okcupid @Inc @Bloomberg @HarvardBiz Michael J. Silverstein and Kate Sayre, in @HarvardBiz, note that women's "$13 trillion in total yearly earnings could reach $18 trillion in the same period" (hbr.org/2009/09/the-fe…). If you do the math, you might note that women are obviously spending unearned money.

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM @colttaine @okcupid @Inc @Bloomberg @HarvardBiz Michael J. Silverstein and Kate Sayre state, in @HarvardBiz, simply that "women are the customer" (hbr.org/2009/09/the-fe…).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM @colttaine @okcupid @Inc @Bloomberg @HarvardBiz Krystle M. Davis, in @Forbes, writes "[w]omen may make up half of the U.S. population, but they dominate consumer purchasing decisions" and "[w]omen drive 70-80% of all consumer purchasing decisions" (forbes.com/sites/forbesco…).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM @colttaine @okcupid @Inc @Bloomberg @HarvardBiz @Forbes Krystle M. Davis, in @Forbes, notes that "[t]he top homebuyers after married couples are single women (18%, double the percentage for single men at 9%)" and "70% of travel consumers are women" (forbes.com/sites/forbesco…).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM @colttaine @okcupid @Inc @Bloomberg @HarvardBiz @Forbes Girlpowermarketing writes "[w]omen control over $20 trillion in worldwide spending" and "[w]omen account for 85% of all consumer purchases"(girlpowermarketing.com/statistics-pur…).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM @colttaine @okcupid @Inc @Bloomberg @HarvardBiz @Forbes Girlpowermarketing writes "women will control two-thirds of all consumer wealth in the United States and be the beneficiaries of the largest transference of wealth in our country’s history" (girlpowermarketing.com/statistics-pur…) citing Mediapost, April 19, 2013; She-conomy.

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM @colttaine @okcupid @Inc @Bloomberg @HarvardBiz @Forbes "[W]omen account for 85 percent of all purchases and drive 70-80 percent of all consumer spending" (entrepreneur.com/article/329780) writes @JanaMatt, in @Entrepreneur.

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM @colttaine @okcupid @Inc @Bloomberg @HarvardBiz @Forbes @JanaMatt @Entrepreneur Inclusionary Leadership Group writes "[w]omen influence 7 trillion dollars of spending in the US annually in this country and influence 83% of all consumer spending in the United States" (genderleadershipgroup.com/the-inclusiona…).

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM @colttaine @okcupid @Inc @Bloomberg @HarvardBiz @Forbes @JanaMatt @Entrepreneur It seems from all the above data like women can opt-out of working as much as men (when considering both paid and unpaid labor) as women are being allowed to reap the rewards of being a part of society without being made by society to contribute as much as men to that society.

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM @colttaine @okcupid @Inc @Bloomberg @HarvardBiz @Forbes @JanaMatt @Entrepreneur Please explain, @HWohmahn and @kkriztinaa, how men are "selectively forcing women OUT of" performing labor, generally, that also explains why women (on average) work less than men (on average) when both paid and unpaid labor is considered as demonstrated by the @BLS_gov's data.

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM @colttaine @okcupid @Inc @Bloomberg @HarvardBiz @Forbes @JanaMatt @Entrepreneur @threader_app, please compile.

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM @colttaine @okcupid @Inc @Bloomberg @HarvardBiz @Forbes @JanaMatt @Entrepreneur @threadreaderapp, please unroll.

@HWohmahn @SeptimusSulla @kkriztinaa @playspoemsprose @Gaea56998567 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @TIME @usnews @PolitiFact @PunditFact @LexyTopping @IPPR @ArwaM @colttaine @okcupid @Inc @Bloomberg @HarvardBiz @Forbes @JanaMatt @Entrepreneur I guess, unsurprisingly, Harry-Wohmahn (@HWohmahn) concedes on all points through blocking rather than addressing the data produced.