With a little help from @KSPrior, I’d like to try to bring a bit more clarity to the empathy/sympathy debate. I still think what I think, but finding other ways to express it has its important uses, and my thinking has been clarified through some of my interactions.
And to those who say, “Isn’t the fact that you’re still talking about this evidence that *you* were unclear?”, let me say, perhaps. It also might be that some people struggle to read carefully and charitably.
But regardless, my goal is to avoid quarrelsomeness (which isn't the same as avoiding debate), to be kind to everyone (which isn't the same as caving to pressure), to teach, to patiently endure evil (including misrepresentations), & to correct opponents with gentleness.
So the other day, Karen tweeted this:

and lots of folks were confused, since they typically flip it. For many, empathy is an *improvement* upon sympathy and a *more* loving response than sympathy.
Now I agree with Karen. So let's define empathy as some kind of emotion-sharing (though even that is contested). Empathy, *properly understood*, is less than sympathy or compassion & a servant to sympathy. Here’s how I’ve sought to explain the relationship. Call this Empathy (A).
On the other hand, as Karen’s timeline demonstrates, empathy, *commonly understood* is regarded as an improvement upon sympathy. It’s a deeper & more loving response to the hurting. Call this Empathy (B). Brene Brown is a prominent advocate of this:
Note that Empathy (B) *withholds judgment.* As a result, Empathy (B) as *frequently practiced* is untethered from truth & ungoverned by reason. It finds itself at the mercy of the sufferer’s feelings & easily loses sight of the sufferer’s true & lasting good.
It is thereby susceptible to emotional manipulation, and it’s in this latter sense that we can talk about “the sin of empathy" and the dangers of empathy and so forth.
So again:
1) Empathy (A), properly understood, is less than sympathy & the servant of sympathy.
2) Empathy (B), commonly understood & frequently practiced, is regarded as superior to sympathy & involves a dangerous untethering from truth and judgment.
We might call these tethered empathy & untethered, or governed & ungoverned. And crucially, Empathy (B) is thus a distortion or corruption of Empathy (A).

But (and this is the key thing) *BOTH of them go by the name “empathy.”*
The common term is what creates confusion and raises a question of rhetorical strategy when seeking to expose it. The question is this:
Is it legitimate to expose a real sin by using its assumed (good) name?
I submit that the answer is yes.
For a list of examples, see here: To these I would add books like “Toxic Charity,” “When Helping Hurts,” and “Jesus and John Wayne.”
So again, thanks to @KSPrior (and @AlsoACarpenter) for helping me to get clarity on where (I think) some of the real divisions lie.

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15 Mar
So a few quick items on these two response to the empathy/sympathy discussion from @JoelMcDurmon. lambsreign.com/blog/canceling… lambsreign.com/blog/the-dange…
1) I appreciate Dr. McDurmon's attempt to substantively engage with arguments. As I've said before, after 2+ years, I couldn't point to a single public response to my work on empathy that actually engaged with my arguments and position (I have had fruitful private conversations).
Instead, online criticisms (whether on Twitter or in other forms) have misrepresented the actual claims I've made and attacked strawmen with my face on it. (There have been a few exceptions on Twitter). So it's good that someone took the time to attempt making arguments.
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12 Mar
Since it seems like people are wanting to talk "empathy" today, I had one thought based on @RevKevDeYoung's recent article about 4 Approaches to Race, Gender, and Politics. thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevin-de…
In it, Kevin argues for four different "teams" based on different moods, instincts, and sensibilities. He uses a positive word that each team would likely accept to describe them:
So the debate about the Man Rampant video and "the sin of empathy" provides a good test case for Kevin's taxonomy. It seems to me that it breaks down like this:

4’s (Team Courageous) loved the content and are promoting it like crazy (and in some cases may be misusing it)
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9 Feb
So, every time this sort of dustup happens in response to my interviews & writings on empathy, I find that it's a real opportunity *for me* to do a couple of things:
1) It's an opportunity to obey Jesus by rejoicing when people slander and misrepresent you.
2) It's an opportunity to obey Jesus by praying for opponents and critics who willfully misrepresent you and attack strawman versions of your arguments.
3) It's an opportunity for gratitude for critics who actually take the time to understand one's position *and represent it accurately*. I have friends who disagree with my framing in the Man Rampant video. I've been helped by their feedback & gotten clarity in my own mind.
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11 Jan
Some reflections as things become clearer in the aftermath of last week (apologies for the length). Obviously the situation is still in process and I've not looked at everything. But the following (at this point) seems to me to be the case:
At the Capital we've got different groups:
1a) normal marchers, waving American flags & wearing MAGA hats (who went back to their hotels after the rally)
1b) Selfie-taking attention-seekers: those who were there to see a show & those who were there to put on a show (Viking man)
1c) Angry protestors who wanted to put pressure on their representatives about certifying the election.
1d) Angry rioters who wanted to find their political opponents & beat them into submission (& who assaulted & killed police officers in the process).
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8 Jan
One more thread for the day. I want to talk about X. But it’s hard to talk about X these days. X is incredibly controversial, and when it is brought up, tempers quickly flare. People have very strong feelings about X. People who are concerned about X fall into a number of camps.
There are those who believe outlandish things about X despite evidence to the contrary. These people often react very strongly to attempts to point out that their beliefs about X don’t necessarily accord with reality. Even raising questions about their beliefs provokes a reaction
Other people have reasonable and legitimate questions about X. They are deeply concerned about X, and the way that X affects them or others in our society. And of course many people concerned about X fall along a spectrum between radical and reactive, and reasonable and measured.
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8 Jan
A thread in light of the present moment: We need to make a distinction between respectable nonsense (& evil) & despicable nonsense (& evil), with respectable meaning “engenders respect among mainstream society” & despicable meaning “provokes derision among mainstream society.”
I think many Bible-believing Christians want to speak truth, reject nonsense, and condemn evil wherever it occurs. But speaking truth about despicable nonsense is significantly easier, since our denunciations are cutting with the grain of mainstream, polite society.
We can let our denunciations fly, knowing that the only ones that might object are those who are despised by mainstream society. No need for nuance or distinctions, & easy to turn our condemnations up to 11. We discover words like "outrageous," "horrific," &, yes, "despicable."
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