And more conventional right-wingers do share ideological sympathies with their fellows in other countries.
I wouldn't say they COOPERATE much, because right-wingers who participate in electoral politics are going to be pretty well focused *on those electoral politics.*
If you're a right-winger in Brazil, you're going to spend a lot of time supporting Bolsonaro and very little time supporting Trump, right?
But you'll have friendly *feelings* towards Trump, seeing him as "your kinda guy."
And if that's all Troy said, I'd be cheering him on.
But it's not.
Troy has built up his reputation on Twitter with long threads full of names. He tends to play the Linked-To game: Person A is "linked to" B, who's "linked to" C, and ONE of them said something sinister once, so all three (& the links, whatever those were) are bad!
The "linked-to" game is, in fact, central to Troy's view of the world. In Troy's view, if you can play the linked-to game *hard* enough, you can map out a network of bad actors.
So let's talk about networks. They're central to Troy's theory of how the world works:
What Troy is saying, in those posts, is that looking at the world through *conventional* eyes--looking at categories like "populist" or "nationalist" -- is a chump's game.
So is the idea that geopolitics is primarily a contest between nation-states for power and influence.
To Troy, the REAL explanation for world events can -- pretty much always -- be found in the actions of *networks.* This, I take it, is why "Network Analyst" is the first thing in his bio.
And before I explain what "networks" ARE in Troy's conception, let's pause for a moment.
How many academic disciplines did Dave Troy just... *shove aside* in his rush to decide How The World Really Works?
International relations, political science, economics, sociology, aaaaaaand history, right? Just off the top of my head.
How did Troy establish that he's right?
Because the thing is, when you want to overthrow the body of knowledge in a scholarly discipline, *there's a process for it*, isn't there?
You get a degree, & you write papers, & you present at conferences, & you make yourself visible *outside* academia, & you win converts.
Dave Troy has done none of this, of course. Dave Troy just says: no, no, no. All of the conventional wisdom is wrong because I say so. Now let me ride my hobbyhorse forever.
Folks, there's a *word* for people who do that.
That word is "crank."
So... back to "networks," which, as you'll recall, are the pillar of Troy's worldview.
The networks Troy is MOST concerned with are groups of the rich and powerful who, in his view, have transnational goals: they want to shape the world to their liking, & have a plan to do it.
There are other groupings of people he would refer to as "networks," but that's not really important to my critique -- I'm just saying it bc I am at *absolute pains* to be exquisitely fair to this crank and his bullshit.
'cause see, when we ask HOW the "networks" function...
when we zoom and enhance to what Troy actually SAYS about them...
it is absolute conspiracy-theory madness all the way down.
I'm about to quote a passage from part 4 of his Medium piece. I DARE you to say it's out of context: HE NAMED THE PIECE AFTER IT. It's a *central* point.
Folks...
"Meet the Octopus," writes Troy.
The Octopus is "the convergence of intelligence, oil interests, and the Catholic Church."
This is conspiracy-riffic already, but it gets so much worse. Click into images 2 and 3. I'm gonna discuss 'em, but read them first.
OK, here's my summary. Again, I dare you to tell me I'm being unfair.
"Person A and Person B were investigating the Octopus, but died of 'apparent' suicides. Is there any evidence of foul play? Well... no. But maybe it was STILL the Octopus, bc it's SO SINISTER & OVERHWELMING."
Fuckin' **excuse me** -- for someone who is greatly indignant about Fox News using Seth Rich's death to stoke bullshit conspiracy theories, Dave Troy is AWFULLY eager to use these two people's deaths to stoke his bullshit conspiracy theory.
IT'S WRONG WHEN *ANYONE* DOES IT, FFS!
Do you know what Troy does in the next passage? THE VERY NEXT WORDS THAT HE WRITES, I shit you not, are devoted to just...
free-associating between "The Octopus" and Sidney Powell's "Kraken." And to musing about how "the Octopus" has been used IN CONSPIRACY THEORIES.
Yeah, bro.
Yeah, it has. So... why are you using it? It is a goddamned mystery.
That was the end of the article; note, btw, that he ended with "rooted in long-standing conflicts between powerful networks" because, again, I'm correctly representing his theories.
This ain't a hit piece.
Before I leave Part 4, to which I link below (with a screenshot of the title in case he changes it later)...
let me just scroll back up a ways.
You know what's always a good fuckin' sign that you're reading a conspiracy theory?
When the author starts screaming about the Jesuits and Opus Dei. THAT'S a real good sign it's a conspiracy theory.
And you know how I talked about the "linked-to" game Troy likes to play? Next tweet has a PRIME example.
These paragraphs are next to each other. What the *fuck* are they supposed to prove?
"McFarlane wrote something something RUSSIA. McFarlane was present at a speech where the RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR was present. Subsequent deals BELIEVED TO ADVANCE, blah blah RUSSIA."
What is this?
This is conspiracist logic. This is conspiracist *rhetoric.* Has written, believed to, present at, subsequent. No causal link is ever established.
It glides serenely *by* the space where an actual analyst would provide proof of causation, or, for that matter, a shred of context.
D'you see why I'm big fucking mad about this guy?
I'm mad because *he's a charlatan* -- he bills himself as a "disinformation expert" who's *against* conspiracy theories, *but he's mired in conspiracist thinking.*
And his "networks" -- the rich, influential ones? What are they?
They're a group of shadowy elites pulling the strings of world events, manipulating & dividing us.
Excuse me, but... what, functionally, is the difference between these "networks" and the Illuminati?
I mean, is that not how conspiracists would define the Illuminati?
Of course it is.
Because Dave Troy is a conspiracy theorist who really does think that shadowy networks of elites control the world and bend it to their dark desires, and we have to ignore what the so-called "experts" say is REALLY going on...
and focus on the *real* cognoscenti, the REAL wise ones, like (oh, just for example) Dave Troy.
Listen to DAVE, not to sociologists or journalists or historians or political scientists.
Listen to Dave and remember to fight the Caba -- I mean, the Octopus -- with all your might.
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As you can see on the FULL graph (click in to expand, naturally), there was a tiny bit of Q-related content leaking onto the wider Internet almost from the start.
Reddit content was at first largely confined to r/conspiracy, and there were a few YouTubers covering Q early on.
So at the VERY beginning -- the period I'm mostly concerned with -- Q was largely a 4chan phenomenon. The data makes it *look* like YouTube, rather than Reddit, was the key driver of QAnon reaching a wider audience.
This is possible, but we don't have info on *views.*
Somehow I had already forgotten that, IN MID-FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR,
the VERY conservative American Enterprise Institute found 29% of white evangelicals said it was "completely" or "mostly" accurate that Trump was fighting a cabal of pedophile Dems. 🙃🙃
The article is worth a read, BTW, because it has really interesting breakdowns on prevalence of QAnon belief by race and religion.
Oh! I should add -- this survey may actually UNDER-report the prevalence of that belief, since at least one other reputable survey found approximately 50% of Republicans believing that top Democrats are involved in child-sex-trafficking rings.
Now... y'all know what a funnel is, right? Just in case you don't, here you go: it's a device that starts off broad at the top and narrows down to a tiiiiny little nozzle.
Radicalization is a funnel -- many are called, as it were, but few are chosen.
So is Anon.
Anyone who's curious enough to Google QAnon or watch one of their recruitment videos or what-have-you has entered the sales funnel.
But wait, why summarize? I can let Gander take it from here:
UPDATE: Oh boy. Seth's thread was an EDUCATION for me and, I think, will be one for you too.
Only gonna make one point because it's midnight, but... re: 👇, I absorbed a secularized version of this and STILL had a lotta cognitive dissonance abt America's past.
I can't IMAGINE how hard it would have been to stop doing... ::gestures:: all the whataboutism and deflection and "well, was it really so bad"-ness...
if I had believed that all of the atrocities were ordained by God to give America to white people, which was Seth's background.
I know most folks don't click links, so let me give you a brief summary. First, we've all had this EXPERIENCE, right? A Q person dances around questions endlessly, refuses to state their beliefs, and says "do your own research."
So Gander asks: what's the FUNCTION of that reply?
Well, almost certainly the Q believer has a *bunch* of Q-related beliefs that you'd reject out of hand. They want to pill you, and they know the interaction just... WILL NOT GO in that direction if they come right out and say what they believe.
I've long talked about how Q's North Korea storyline is the weirdest thing about him. Most of Q's conspiracy theories are generic, but "The CIA runs North Korea?"
That's OUT there.
Today I learned about a far-right podcaster who did an episode in April 2017 claiming thaaat:
Does that mean *for sure* that Q stole his claim from this guy? No.
Am I gonna spend a bunch of time researching it? No; I have other stuff to do and, at a cursory glance, there's very little meat on these bones. Not much to analyze.
But here's what I do have.
Really the most notable thing about his video is that, though the title currently says "(satire)," no one in the comments took it as satirical. Reception to his claim was, overall, warm but mixed.
On Twitter, incidentally, he WAS aware that Q was promoting his ideas: