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30 Mar, 12 tweets, 3 min read
A bit about the federal law of enticement and so-called traveler cases, which may be of interest in light of the story below.
nytimes.com/2021/03/30/us/…
Every state has age of consent laws, prohibiting sexual intercourse with a person under the age of consent. The age of consent varies by state, generally being 16, 17, or 18. See the chart here: aspe.hhs.gov/report/statuto…
Federal law makes certain interstate conduct done with intent to commit such crimes a federal crime. For example, 18 U.S.C. 2423 makes it a crime to transport a person under 18 in interstate commerce w/ intent to engage in an illegal sexual act. law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18…
Similarly, 18 U.S.C. 2423(b) makes traveling in interstate commerce to engage in an illegal sexual act a crime. There are several variations of these crimes in Sections 2421, 2422, and 2423.
Notably, these crimes harness state law. The crime is often about crossing state lines, or having someone else cross state lines, with intent to engage in an illegal sexual act in that state. So it's what is a crime in that state that matters.
United States v. Patten, 397 F.3d 1100 (8th Cir. 2005), illustrates the point. Patten was in Minnesota, and he traveled to North Dakota to engage in sexual activity with a person he thought was a 16 year old who lived there. It turned out it was an undercover cop instead.
Patten was convicted and sentenced to 15 months in prison for using the Internet to try to persuade a minor to engage in an illegal act under 18 U.S.C. 2422(b). Patten argued on appeal that he was innocent because there wasn't proof he planned to do the act in North Dakota.
That mattered, Patten argued, because the act wouldn't be illegal in Minnesota.

CA8 affirmed the conviction on the ground that all the jury was only required to find that Patten was going to try to persuade the 16-year-old in N.D. to commit the act that, in N.D., was illegal.
There was enough evidence of the intent to persuade the 16-year-old in the state where it would be illegal to commit the act, even if the actual act would be committed elsewhere. Conviction affirmed.
How does this relate to possible charges against Rep. Gaetz? First, recognize that this is only a report of an investigation. We don't, as far as I can tell, know a lot of the facts. So caution is warranted before speculating too much.
But the suggestion in the NY Times article is that Gaetz may have been carrying on a sexual relationship involving travel with a 17-year-old girl. If so, depending on the states, that might end up being transporting a minor across state lines to further a criminal act.
But it depends a lot on the details of the state law, what particular states, the intent, etc. as the Patten case suggests. /end

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29 Mar
In the next year or two, the Supreme Court is likely to decide how and whether the border search exception applies to digital devices?

But which cases should it take, and which issues should it decide?

A thread.
The basic question is how and whether to apply the border search exception to the Fourth Amendment to computers.

That could break down into a bunch of sub-questions:

1) Does the exception apply *at all* to computers, or is it inapplicable under a CA v. Riley rationale?
2) If the exception applies, should courts draw a distinction between rules for "forensic" and "manual" searches, as the 9th Circuit has concluded?

3) If the exception applies, what standards of cause are needed to *start* a border search, either for manual, forensic, or both?
Read 10 tweets
25 Mar
Supreme Court rules 5-3 in Torres v. Madrid that “application of physical force to the body of a person with intent to restrain is a seizure, even if the force does not succeed in subduing the person.” SupremeCourt.gov/opinions/20pdf… #n
An expected result, although a closer vote than I expected, based on the argument. More tweet commentary soon.
A few quick thoughts now. First, this seems like a really narrow ruling. It's always been clear that "application of physical force to the body of a person with intent to restrain" is a seizure when the police succeed in stopping the person, temporarily, and that's most cases.
Read 11 tweets
25 Mar
Here's thread on today's oral argument in Caniglia v. Strom, on the community caretaking exception. Thread will be thoughts on the argument, not an overview of the case, which others have done.

Briefs: supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?fi…

Oral arg transcript: supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments…
First up, Roberts questioning counsel for petitioner, the plaintiff in the civil case. Roberts starts with what I think is plaintiff's hardest hypo: what about wellness checks on seniors who haven't been heard from? Not a surprising question.
If I understood P's argument, their position is that you can't search to do a wellness check, but eventually, after a few days, there will be probable cause to get a warrant to search for a missing person.
Read 37 tweets
24 Mar
First Circuit held en banc argument today in US v. Moore-Bush, on the 4th Amendment limits of pole cameras (if any) after Carpenter v. US.

Listen to the 1:47 hours of oral argument here:
media.ca1.uscourts.gov/files/audio/19…

News report here: courthousenews.com/a-police-camer…

h/t: @howappealing
I don't have a clear view of how Carp should apply to pole cameras -- hard Q, I think -- but I thought DOJ's arg should have been simpler than it was. Best arg for DOJ, I think, is "Carpenter is about an REP in the whole of a person's movements, and a pole camera doesn't move."
From the govt's perspective, that's your limiting principle in a pole camera case, I think: Carpenter is only about the whole of movements, and it doesn't apply to a camera fixed on one place. (May or may not persuade a particular court, but I think it's the govt's best arg.)
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23 Mar
Fascinating 4th Am case now pending before the Wisc SCT, State v. Burch.

Thread.

In 2016, D allowed Police Dept 1 to download contents of his phone in a crim case. Govt copied entire phone, kept copy. Later, D is a suspect in unrelated homicide investigated by Police Dept 2.
Police Dept 2 got the copy still held by Police Dept 1 and searched it for evidence of the homicide w/o a warrant. The search showed that D had a gmail account, and the police then obtained D's gmail account records. They showed his phone was at the murder location and time.
Merits 4A question is mostly about the scope of consent: Do you interpret the consent given at the 1st stage to permit the holding on to the data and giving it to diff police dept for a different crime?
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22 Mar
Helpful overview of Wednesday's oral argument in Caniglia v. Strom. I haven't tweeted much about the case because it seems sort of small.

Quick thread.

scotusblog.com/2021/03/theres…
The issue in the case is the extent of the community caretaking exception of Cady. But there are a bunch of possible exceptions to the warrant requirement possibly in play, and the case seems just as much about which exceptions should fit which hypos than whether one does.
For any given set of Justices, there will be an overall amount of warrant-exception-ness they'll see as reasonable. I assume that amount is largely fixed given the Court's membership. If that's right, the issue w/the scope of any one exception is as much scope of the others.
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