Lots of people saying Labour are right to stay silent on Brexit, that people need to feel the pain or something. That’s easier said than done for those who have spent years proudly building their independent businesses, creating jobs, creating tax revenue, collecting vat, 1/
putting homes up as collateral to raise the money to invest in the future for themselves, their staff, their families and their communities, working all the hours god sends for years, doing without to get their companies through bad patches. 2/
If you haven’t got a job on the line, a business on the line, a life’s work on the line, it’s very easy to sit there shouting at those who just don’t understand why the opposition parties are letting them simply go down without even an acknowledgement that is happening. 3/
Even an indication of an understanding of what is occurring - not just to the shellfish industry - from opposition voices would be something. But then again EU citizens were also pretty much thrown under a bus with very few voices raised in their protection either. /end
Looking at some replies I am not really sure why the assumption is the only way to talk about Brexit is in terms of rejoin. You can talk about what is going wrong and demand to know what measures can be done to limit the damage but apparently even that is too much.
It’s about time all British voters were forced to wake up and think about things seriously and intelligently instead of like daily Mail fucking headlines!
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I totally agree with this very well expressed piece. At the core of brexit was always that willingness amongst too many supposedly mature people to blame the problems they saw with things like housing on the Eastern Europeans in particular that came to the UK. 1/
In fact the statistics never support this age old narrative that getting rid of the foreigner will make things better. An influx of young ambitious immigrants can even help to revive local economies which are struggling due to the demographics of an ageing population. 2/
I am always a little dubious about the argument that it’s down to the education system. The UK is not a third world country, the population is by and large educated to a reasonably high minimum standard. /3
On the issue of how quickly a rejoin campaign takes a hold, well I think it depends on a lot of things - no idea why people are so absolutely positive it’s the wrong thing to do straight away!
Let’s see how quickly people get fed up with cabbage for dinner again! Thread 1/
It didn’t take more than a few months to turn a small group of people from not caring a toss about Eu membership to turning the EU into the devil incarnate in their heads. Enough people to get leave over the line I mean. 2/
Yes even with all the cheating and the lying and the years of fake headlines about Germans and pool towels and refugees and gravy trains they still only got a small majority back in 2016. 3/
Trump has been allowed to get where he got to because people who knew better, for political reasons, went along with him. To oppose self serving lies and manipulation requires hard plain truths from politicians. If that doesn’t come from an opposition where does it come from?
I am extremely troubled. There are already severe problems in cross border trade apparent. We have lots of worms yet to wiggle out of the can. Who is going to call all this out as it occurs? There is no real fix to any of it outside the sm/cu without reducing rights.
Capital will be pushed into fewer hands too as small businesses are pushed out already struggling with covid.
I have no issue facing the fact that we have been unable to stop Brexit from happening but no amount of desperate self delusion spouted by MPs will hide the fact that Britain has damaged its own prospects by leaving the biggest trading bloc in the world!
There is nothing in the short or medium term that can make up for the financial hole that this government have led the UK into. The EU is not going to fall apart it will only get stronger. To abandon the privileged position of being a powerful voice inside it was stupid!
The only thing we can do is damage limitation at least in the short/medium term. Everything is now harder for virtually every business sector you can think of. But more than that I believe the UK will get lonely in its isolation.
Kelvin Mackenzie’s tweet just goes to show that the only weapon for brexit extremists to retain their power base is hate - the spreading of hate. They lost all the rational arguments. These are the same people who wanted to use wave machines to repel dinghies with human beings.
They are the same people who told lies about the city of Liverpool. They are the same people who wanted to cut money from disabled people. They are the same people who don’t approve of feeding deprived children.
They are the same people who approved of the bedroom tax knowing that without the right balance of housing stock available that homelessness would rise.
Thanks to the ridiculous general election we have a government who are delivering nothing but mess mess mess! I don’t care what any of you say it was absolutely the right thing to fight for a second referendum and parliament should have supported that instead of damaging the UK!
It was the only pathway to returning to a level headed sensible politics! I hope there are politicians and ex mps who will genuinely search their consciences and understand the bad choices they made in indulging the English nativist brexit fiasco with their indifference/support
I have examined my journey and I conclude that fundamentally we followed the only campaign path we could. The British public are now waking up to the fact that they were conned. It was the job of all MPs to look after their constituents first and not their own jobs or parties.