@TheZvi @jessi_cata @ben_r_hoffman @EpistemicHope @HiFromMichaelV @zackmdavis Here’s the actual mechanism I think:

Cradle liberals like Scott get exposed, as adolescents or young adults, to social conservatives (often Christian) who are better prepared than they are to argue their case.
@TheZvi @jessi_cata @ben_r_hoffman @EpistemicHope @HiFromMichaelV @zackmdavis Cradle liberals like Scott are upset/hurt at the “meanness” of such views, but also are honest enough to acknowledge that sometimes upsetting things are true.
@TheZvi @jessi_cata @ben_r_hoffman @EpistemicHope @HiFromMichaelV @zackmdavis Scotts are not confident they can distinguish between sound-but-unpleasant arguments and mere bullying. They are too upset by both to think clearly. And they know this.
@TheZvi @jessi_cata @ben_r_hoffman @EpistemicHope @HiFromMichaelV @zackmdavis So they want to take steps to limit the ability of people to hurt their feelings, WITHOUT relying on claims that the social conservatives are objectively wrong.
@TheZvi @jessi_cata @ben_r_hoffman @EpistemicHope @HiFromMichaelV @zackmdavis You can do this by saying “my house, my rules, no personal sexuality-shaming on my blog”, but Scott in particular is too insecure to do this, he has to confabulate a justification that sounds “fair.”
@TheZvi @jessi_cata @ben_r_hoffman @EpistemicHope @HiFromMichaelV @zackmdavis Since he’s already written the bottom line, he’s not careful about what his confabulated argument implies and it’s awful. But most readers don’t notice.
@TheZvi @jessi_cata @ben_r_hoffman @EpistemicHope @HiFromMichaelV @zackmdavis I just read that post as a hamster spinning its wheel trying to work up the nerve to ban the personal insults. I’ve made posts that are similarly “motivated.” I try not to do it now because it’s really embarrassing to get called out on it (which has happened!)
@TheZvi @jessi_cata @ben_r_hoffman @EpistemicHope @HiFromMichaelV @zackmdavis This is one reason why I talk explicitly about feelings, btw. I think it’s really bad to spin up a confabulated, pseudo-“logical” argument as a way of expressing a feeling or preference. It’s a bad habit that too many nerds have and we should try to break it.

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9 Apr
@TheZvi @jessi_cata @ben_r_hoffman @EpistemicHope @HiFromMichaelV @zackmdavis I think there are people who do think this!
@TheZvi @jessi_cata @ben_r_hoffman @EpistemicHope @HiFromMichaelV @zackmdavis Eg Scott thinks the Westboro Baptist Church is wrong to picket funerals, not because they’re object-level wrong about gays, but because the US as a whole hasn’t collectively decided homosexuality is wrong.
@TheZvi @jessi_cata @ben_r_hoffman @EpistemicHope @HiFromMichaelV @zackmdavis slatestarcodex.com/2016/05/02/be-…

By analogy, this argument would also make it wrong to picket Nazi funerals if you lived in Nazi Germany.
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7 Apr
overcomingbias.com/2021/04/prefer… I think I agree with this: I also prefer law to governance.

Not sure I agree with Hanson that law vs. governance is independent of the "size" or "amount" of government.
A governance system (regulation) and a law system (torts) can be exactly the same in their "strictness/laxity". In his example of pollution, they can define the same actions as "pollution" and require equally costly penalties to polluters.
OTOH, in general I think you need more people to staff a regulatory agency than to staff a civil court system, so the government will literally be larger (more employees, more spending) when rules are enforced via governance.
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7 Apr
@EpistemicHope @HiFromMichaelV @ben_r_hoffman @TheZvi @zackmdavis To be clear, they do distinguish between intentional and unintentional harm!

They think (like the law) that if it’s sufficiently feasible to find out you’re causing harm and stop, you’re negligent if you avoid finding out and stopping.
@EpistemicHope @HiFromMichaelV @ben_r_hoffman @TheZvi @zackmdavis Also they believe (and so do I) that there’s such a thing as motivatedly looking away from the harm you cause, which is a very different behavior from genuine ignorance where you couldn’t have known better.
@EpistemicHope @HiFromMichaelV @ben_r_hoffman @TheZvi @zackmdavis Ben, Michael, and I all agree that PG is most likely flinching from, or in denial about, the ways in which he’s shaped YC in directions that harmed/wronged people. (Like “Fred” in Alyssa’s post.)
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5 Apr
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Ru… Variations on the Golden Rule from many ancient sources, including ones I wasn't aware had one (Thales! the Mahabharata!)
Interesting differences: some versions say not to do to others what would hurt/harm/be bad for you if it were done to you.

Others say not to do to others what you would "blame" them for doing to you.
Hillel's "what is hateful to yourself do not do to another" seems to be in the second category -- the word for "hate" seems to be used in other contexts for hating *people*. sefaria.org/Shabbat.31a.6?…
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One thing I didn't investigate, but might check next, is how turnover effects play into all this. 🧵
So, let's say the conclusion of my post is correct, and most professional investors "under-research" (in the sense that they'd get better returns if they did more research.)

Is this a *societal* problem?

To answer that, we have to understand turnover.
You could tell a story where "too many investors making dumb investment decisions" is a societal problem because it causes malinvestment.

Perhaps there are opportunities to do productive things with money, that languish unfunded because all the money goes to dumb stuff.
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@jd_pressman @QiaochuYuan I mean, to the extent that you care about changing anything, it’s in some sense a “personal problem”, because you can only control your own actions.

I don’t usually see much “purchase” or usable value to be gained from the “cosmic horror frame.
@jd_pressman @QiaochuYuan Whether you call it “broken” or not, we live in a world where perpetually going with the flow can land us in trouble. (Eg we can go broke, get sick, make mistakes that hurt people, etc).
@jd_pressman @QiaochuYuan A world in which all thought is unnecessary — I don’t know if it’s possible *at all*, but it’s a long way off. As COVID19 teaches!
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