I really like the point Nick made here about being able to express scientific uncertainty.
I don’t think people expected the China-WHO team or experts to know where COVID-19 came from. So hearing some experts proclaim they almost know for sure it was 100% natural is puzzling.
Many news outlets even today continue to report the China-WHO conclusions that a lab origin is extremely unlikely or that the scientific consensus is that the virus was 100% natural. Who exactly constitutes this consensus?
I think this is a major science communication problem.
There are also opinion pieces that the natural origin scenario must be much more likely. But based on what assumptions? That SARS viruses often spillover in Wuhan (untrue)? Vs the lab doing the most SARSrCoV research sitting in the middle of that city for close to 2 decades?
In a situation where there is so little evidence definitively pointing in any direction, any new intelligence could completely change the odds of natural versus lab origins being true.
For example, what if next month, we get a whistleblower report that Wuhan scientists were experimenting with inserting furin cleavage sites into novel bat SARSrCoVs just like American, Chinese & other international scientists have done with SARS1, MERS and other CoVs in the past?
Or what if the WIV’s database is shared, and we see clues that SARSrCoVs similar to SARS2 were being aggressively sampled in Southern China and brought back to Wuhan for study? So far we only know of 9 viruses like this at the WIV. They haven’t even shared genomes for 8 of them.
These are all speculations but in my opinion not as terrible as the speculations that the virus could’ve been originally imported into Wuhan via frozen meat #PopsicleOrigins with the further speculation that this might’ve even come from across China’s borders.
The natural zoonosis hypothesis isn’t standing on much evidence either. It’s all circumstantial and looking wobblier by the week as the search for the immediate precursor to SARS2 continues to turn up empty despite testing 10,000s of animal samples across China for the past year.
At first, based on an early cluster at the Seafood market, China told the world that the virus likely came from illegal wildlife sold there. But in a few months, when the genetic & epidemiology data didn’t point to a spillover at the market, experts still insisted 🦠 = natural.
China-WHO released their extensive report and annex saying they found zero animals positive for SARS2 across 31 provinces and no SARS2 lineage in bats in Central China (please read it, no need to take my word for it), experts still said most likely origin was a natural spillover.
This is like encountering a scientist who tests their favourite hypothesis repeatedly and keeps coming up with negative results each time, yet they still insist that their starting hypothesis is most likely correct.
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Believe it not, I'm still slowly working through the China-WHO #OriginsofCOVID report+annex (300pg). Today I noticed that they didn't give specifics on the (suspected) COVID cases at the Wuhan Central Hospital with the 2 most prominent whistleblowers Dr Ai Fen and Dr Li Wenliang.
The patient with earliest covid-19 symptom onset on Dec 8? No idea which Wuhan hospital this person went to.
The original index patient with earliest onset on Dec 1? Excluded. Which Wuhan hospital received this person? What was the exact reason for exclusion?
Please, there needs to be a public peer review of this report by scientist/expert reviewers who take into account both the scientific data (if any of the raw data can even be accessed) as well as the public knowledge around the origins.
The story of the quest for the origins of COVID-19 cannot be told without also telling the stories of the internet sleuths & outsiders who discovered clues and hidden stories of the viruses closely related to SARS2, Yunnan miners sick with pneumonia & a missing pathogen database.
We've seen a series of recent articles by stellar journalists chronicling the year+ of painstaking work by internet sleuths.
There have been lots of mistakes made and public conflicts with virologists on twitter... but their contribution is undeniable. cnet.com/features/how-t…
See this wonderful piece by @emmecola from December 2020:
"there are many other people, out of the spotlight, who deserve credit. They have been working tirelessly... they share and discuss their findings and, more importantly, they make discoveries." mygenomix.medium.com/the-origin-of-…
Worth 2min🎧 CIA Director and Director of National Intelligence say that the US intelligence community is still gathering info on the two #OriginsofCOVID theories around which components have coalesced: it emerged naturally or it was a laboratory accident.
Already seen some pushback on my What Next podcast interview with @slate@marysdesk
If you think lab leak=conspiracy theory, it should trouble you that top intelligence & experts are devoting an enormous amount of energy to investigating this hypothesis.
🚨 Covid Commission Planning Group (Covid CPG) "to prepare the way for a National Covid Commission that can seize this once-in-a-century opportunity to help America—and the world—begin to heal and safeguard our common future from new existential threats." millercenter.org/covidcpg
Covid CPG's 9 task forces include:
1 Origins and prevention
2 Assessment of the danger
3 National readiness
4 Communities at risk
5 State and local readiness
6 Caring for the sick
7 Diagnostics, therapeutics & vaccines
8 Stories of Covid
9 Solving data issues
"The Covid CPG effort is rooted in the belief that the scope of a future commission’s work must be national and international... A nonpartisan National Covid Commission could unite Americans to call upon their knowledge and practical skills across and beyond political parties."
Several scientists are reasonably curious about what the issues are with most prominent papers describing the same Guangdong pangolin CoV that shares a very similar spike RBD with SARS2.
If you're deeply curious about this, you should send an email to @Nature asking them to publish the authors' original response to the manuscript @shingheizhan and I submitted to them last May. We also recommend asking to see the peer reviewer comments. biorxiv.org/content/10.110…
Honestly, it's taking a lot of my will power not to just post these publicly so everyone can take a good look.
Statement by the Governments of Australia, Canada, Czechia, Denmark, Estonia, Israel, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway, the Republic of Korea, Slovenia, the United Kingdom, and the United States of America on #OriginsofCOVID 🇦🇺🇨🇦🇨🇿🇩🇰🇪🇪🇮🇱🇯🇵🇱🇻🇱🇹🇳🇴🇰🇷🇸🇮🇬🇧🇺🇸 state.gov/joint-statemen…
“Asked by about the (China-WHO) report, White House spokesperson Jen Psaki said Tuesday it lacked crucial data, and represents a “partial and incomplete picture.””