Thread by @PandaScottish

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Does a country have the democractic right to choose to have a referendum?

Yes or No

It's a simple question.

https://twitter.com/C4Ciaran/status/1384208872789876744

I transcribed Douglas' interview below

If you have answered No.

Why?

If you have answered Yes.

The follow up question:

When does that country have the right to choose to have a referendum?

Because Douglas Moray , Ruth Davidson I believe can be simplified to

Question 1: Yes (although they cannot utter the word Yes , they cannot answer No)

Question 2: Now is not the time, we already decided and that settles it for a random time period

So you also have Ruth Davidson

With the below

https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/1384442405538209793

oh and of course the Daily Express chirping in

https://twitter.com/Daily_Express/status/1384852042154496000

So you also have Douglas

With the below

https://twitter.com/Douglas4Moray/status/1384514867789504518

You also have

'No state should be expected to have to endure repeat referendums on their very existence whenever it suits a separatist movement to hold one.'

https://twitter.com/spectator/status/1384784217712730113

After all

The pollsters have it wrong

So why are unionists so afraid?

https://twitter.com/spectator/status/1385165938954280962

Both of the above from Ruth and Douglas

Are deflections from the fundamental questions

1. Does a country have the democratic right to choose to have a referendum?
2. When does that country have the right to choose to have a referendum?

For me

It is simple

The answers are:

1. Yes
2. There is no time restraint on 1

So on Question 1

“If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy”

That was David Davis MP

Now I think David Davis is an amoral cheating lying racist incompetent charlatan

But that does not mean I agree with him on the above

https://mobile.twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1012780901313536000

So on Question 2

There was once upon a time some politicians who wanted to hold a second referendum

By putting such a referendum in their manifesto at the next general election

So to these politicians the timeframe was as soon as they democratically could obtain a mandate

If Dominic could provide a list of MPs who subscribed to that position that would be helpful

He could let Douglas and Ruth know

Now I also think Dominic Raab is an amoral cheating lying racist nativist incompetent charlatan

Who does not know the importance of Dover

And who does not understand the importance of the Good Friday Agreement

https://mobile.twitter.com/oxforddiplomat/status/1306499480829689858?lang=ca

That is why Dominic Raab and so many of his colleagues had to sell the lies of having many solutions to the NI border

The contempt they had for the peace process

For Northern Ireland

Endless

https://twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1357270164174159872

Or on Dover

theguardian.com/politics/2018/…

I wrote a little song rewording Vera Lynn on the Farage Garage Franchise now infesting Kent

https://twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1345296244533587968

So

As you see

Conservative MPs

Already agree a democracy has the right to change its mind

And they already agree on the time frame - as soon as an election is possible to affirm that decision

So

All that leaves Ruth and Douglas with is two routes

1. Is playing up the "divisiveness" of a referendum

2. Is arguing that the time for a referendum is not now due to coronavirus

I would remind Ruth Davidson

Of a referendum

Where her party leader and his campaign group - let alone the various others

Led a campaign of lies, cheating, racism, xenophobia, islamophobia, nativism and of cakeist fantasy

https://twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1342019458366382081

And on the "now is not the time" because of coronavirus as this country recovers

I would remind you of the legacy of a decade of austerity

https://twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1202012607928061952

And also

A reminder

COnservative MPs and ministers

WANTED TO EXPLOIT CORONAVIRUS IN WHICH TO BURY A NO DEAL BREXIT

Had Trump won that would have been the outcome

The quote from June 2020

The article from June 2020

theguardian.com/commentisfree/…

Here is Nicola Sturgeon

https://twitter.com/itvpeston/status/1384992839365505024

So this thread

Was not going to go into the arguments for or against independence or the union

After all

I know how I voted in 2014

And I am not sure how I would vote now

I am split - you might say at 52-48

This was simply a look at two fundamental questions

I would ask any unionist

And that goes to ALL UNIONIST parties

Explain to me how you condone a situation where for Northern Ireland it is now in a position that no unionist can support

And tell me

How you justify or normalise lying to the Queen

That is all

When the Scottish results come in

Depending on what they are

The next line will be what element of the result constitutes a mandate

1st votes for parties supporting a referendum
2nd votes for parties supporting a referendum
Overall % vote
Turnout
Number MSPs

Anyway to end this thread

With a look at one man

Our blessed People's Prime Minister

Why would he be afraid of a referendum?

Why would he not want to vanquish those pesky "seperatists" and the "Scottish Nationalist Party"

https://twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1374286271732928513

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