Thread by @robinthemint

‘80% of Labour's vote now comes from Remain supporters, the only realistic choice open to the party is to craft an appeal that will maintain & enhance its support among Remain voters, be they working class or not.’

- Curtice - Wiley Online Library onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.11…

2/ I have found this a real dilemma. I have supported @Keir_Starmer in his attempt to win back Brexit red wall voters but many, working class or not, seem to have values more in common with right wing Tories so as Curtice implies they may not return to @UKLabour as hoped. -

3/ So is @UKLabour & @Keir_Starmer chasing a ‘will o’ the wisp’ if hoping to build a recovery upon Red wall voters. If they cannot by now have seen the harm Brexit has done to the U.K. will they ever do so? Some may but probably many will not & meanwhile remainers alienated?

4/ @Keir_Starmer & @UKLabour are a far more attractive option than the Brexit supporting & equivocating Corbyn & his Brexit appeasing wing. But if these elections are poor for Labour perhaps Red wall Brexit appeasement by Labour should stop in favour of a more robust attack on it

5/ I still believe @Keir_Starmer & @UKLabour are the best vehicle for dislodging corrupt Tories but they should perhaps stop dancing around Brexit which is hurting the U.K for fear of red wall reaction. Worry about majority of left of centre supporters who still loath Brexit?

6/ Yes - the crooked Tories will utilise the ‘well you voted for Brexit’ argument against Labour but as was made clear this was a vote against ‘no deal’. @UKLabour needs to step up attack upon Tory mishandling of Brexit implementation which was not what Labour votes for.

7/ Curtice got it right in his piece. The old class based politics has been replaced by the politics of cultural values. I do not support Labour pandering to the values of the Red Wall. If they are comfortable voting Tory they do not share my values at all. Re-calibration needed

8/ So as Curtice implies as picked up by @pollytoynbee perhaps we do need to readjust the target voter for @UKLabour to secure. Those who support rejoining EU, tactical voters from @LibDems & Greens & even rejoin former Tories with integrity horrified by corrupt Johnson cabal.

9/ The red wall ex Labour voters have had their chance. Despite U.K. being hurt by Brexit & Tory corruption they still seem to want to vote for the Buffoon & his incompetent government. I think we should stop pandering to them and say you & Tories deserve each other. We don’t -

10/ lastly, with apologies for this lengthy thread, I have tried to support the @Keir_Starmer view that Brexit is dead as an issue but it’s not. We need to reunite the progressive tribes in an electoral pact to deliver PR. May lead to rejoin but also a win for progressive values

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