No it can’t be. Is it said anywhere literally that nature follows Islam?

Dharma exists without human being too. Islam has no essence without human being.

Islam is centred around humans, Dharma around nature & human come late in pyramid.
In Islam @amirazizahmedi surrender to someone unseen exists.

Dharma shall not seek one to surrender to anyone. Devotion is a just a small part of Dharma.

Dharma was there even when Vedas weren’t “articulated” in words.
Dharma's one core concept is "Cyclic Time" @amirazizahmedi which is way more rational than linear time.

But irrespective of rationality, Cyclic Time makes Islam altogether different from philosophies that emerged in the land that spoke of "Dharma" first.
That is a claim of Qur'an wherein even in Nature is declared to be following Islam "Submission" but the idea of Dharma sees that Nature and all of us are part of Parambrahm. Nature is not submitting to anyone. We praise Parabrahm, not submit.
It is for that reason that Ishvara too faced trials in concept of "Dharma".

Qur'an is confused as it talks of attributes of Allah, but calls it formless.

Which formless thing has attribute?
So what even if true? The Shastras claiming about Dharma does not recognize that Nature submits to Brahm. Rather Bhagwad Gita makes clear that everything is just part of Krishna, the Para-Brahm. It talks about cyclic time.

Islam is nowhere close.
Easy to understand? What r u saying? Is Cyclic Time concept ever close to Linear Time ? All of a sudden so called "Allah" got a jerk and decided to make Cyclic time into linear. Cyclic Time is practical, complex it may be.

Nothing to do with wt "YOU" got!
And there is nothing in universe @amirazizahmedi which has attributes without having a form.

Omnipresence & eternity does not mean being "formless". It means you being unable to exactly project it for you being a part of it.

The Dharmik Shastra Gita sees everything as part of Param Brahm. It does not reduce the brilliance despite Atman being part of Parmatma.

So when we have got minutest presence of Ishvara as atom then why will be be insulted of form you give.
Dear @amirazizahmedi , it is foolish to assume that thinking of a form for Ishvara is insult to him, for it's his parts only which as "jeeva" lives everywhere around.

That is why I told you Islam can never be Dharma. There is no match.
and @amirazizahmedi we have a form called "ananta", you can't map "ananata" because you do not have canvas big enough but you can certainly map his fractals, parts.

Its stupidity to assume that it is an insult to Parabrahm.

Prambrahm is least bothered.
Sorry our Shastra doesn’t agree to it. We do Namaste which Islam doesn’t agrees.

It’s exactly Ishvara even in his part. Irrespective of quantity like water doesn’t loses its basic nature, atman being part of Parmatman is never less than him as mighty one.
Islam is nowhere compatible with Dharma.
So now you agree at first that our Dharmik base of "Cyclic Time" is a big point of difference with "Islam".

And as definition of Dharma comes from Bharatiya Shastra, it does not have Islam as a Dharmik Subset.

You agree? If so, I'll explain C.Time.
:) Not Rationality. It comes secondarily.

I asked you that if you agree on this that Cyclic Time of Dharmik Shastras (of course Indic because Dharma was defined here), is biggest difference with Islam & hence later can't be dharma.

Well, I thought you knew about "Dharma" & hence vouched for Islam too being one of them.

Never mind. I'll tell you.
Ananta is Krishna's name because of Omnipresence. Ananta means infinite. Refer Mahābhārata, Udyoga Parva, 70.14, Anuśāsana Parva,149.83).

So after not being aware about "Ananta", you agree that you do not know about "Cyclic Time" as per Dharma? If you say so then I may tell you.

Now I find it quite interesting that you began with claim that Islam is Dharm.
You are confused. You know nothing of Shri Krishna.

He was no messenger. According to him, we was "Bhagwan" himself. Shri Krishna was lying.

If "Allah" is supreme it has to be Krishna & no one else & then each word of Qur'an becomes lie.

If you knew Shri Krishna is Ananta, then how do you call him Messenger?

No one is Ananta except "Bhagwan". Is there any second to him? Omnipresent?

You are confused. Highly confused. Moreover Krishna himself tells he is"The Bhagwan".
This has nothing to do with belief. Bhagwad Gita is word of Krishna,& he clearly tells that he is “Bhagwan” himself.

You either believe in Krishna, so him as Bhagwan or not as Bhagwan. When you call him Messenger, you don’t trust his words itself.

You are caught in web!
So what will be more trustworthy, words of Shri Krishna or Belief of you?

He admits of being “Ananta”, “Bhagwan”.

Was he lying Amir?
That is what Abrahmic idea tells. Why should Abrahmic idea supersede to tell about someone of whom former does not even mention? Well, no Shastra from Bharat accept it.

We do not have postman service.

It is amazingly hilarious @amirazizahmedi that you wan to pass judgement about a personality based on idea from a book that never ever even spoke of this personality.

All you have is a fed in belief that Krishna was messenger though his words deny it.
Well you said Krishna is messenger. But Indic Shastras don't agree with it.Y would Abrahmic belief tell about a personality like Krishna whom none of your book ever talks about.

Do u believe in Krishna? If yes, hw with idea that does not even know of him?
It is truly rubbish friend. Where did Muhammad speak of "Krishna"?

It is thought of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in 19th century.

Just tomorrow some XYZ will claim that Md was a "Demon", will u accept it? Or will u refer Qur'an ?
and the biggest stupidity is that he claimed himself to be "Avatar" but rejected what "Avatar" actually means.

Just to believe Ghulam Ahmad why would once denounce word of Krishna himself, when former wants to ride the glory of latter too.
Rubbish! It is a conspiracy theory.

This Hadith only exists in conspiracies and conspirators declare it to be a lost Hadith.

All you have as apologia is a crap of so called "authentic chain of narrators."
Anything that has no existence & is only told as belief has high probability of being consp theory & a crap.

Tell people that don’t u have only claim called “chain of narrators” for it & isn’t it a lost Hadith?

& u want to supersede Hindu view of Krishna based on lost Hadith?
So you agree that Islam has cooked up idea about Krishna. Right?

Basically nature doesn’t submit to parabrahm but is part of him itself as per Dharma (well explained in Gita).

You don’t know any basic & want to debate on most deep issue.

You spread fake words about Krishna .

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25 Apr
So keep your way to yourself.

Don’t be hurt if someone is off your way, eg, not respecting Messenger considering him to be just like one of us.

if you can’t, never call Krishna as Messenger.

Messengers are not revered one fir Hindus. Get this too.
And @amirazizahmedi agree that Islam is not Dharma. Dharma isn’t Arabic but Sanskrit term which is spoken by Bhagwan Krishna himself.

So if u can’t see Krishna as Bhagwan how can your cult be Dharma?

Don’t be confused! Understand, you are diff & grow mutual respect
How will you hear if you will only rely on Ahmediya text.

Your ignorance is so high that despite telling n times, you aren’t clear that even we Human are no diff than Ishvara. We are his component itself.

When all atman are together it’s Parmatman, & he when comes is Avatar.
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24 Apr
Well. Explained multiple times. Doing again.

Dhárma is derived from Sanskrit Dhr-, which means to hold or to support.

It holds behaviors that are considered to be in accord with Ṛta.

Ṛta is the order that makes life & universe possible.
You are having comprehension issues.

Dharma is derived from word Dhr-, itself. How do you avoid it?

What has Veda got to do with it?
Do not make fun of yourself. I went to etymology level & I can't help you if you do do not want to believe.

dhárma, simply means something that upholds or supports. It rooted from "Dharti". Thats why you also have "Dharan".

Of course Sanskrit is origin.

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24 Apr
1/n With Media is busy inciting hysteria in India wrt #COVID19 , I thought to compile data showing where exactly India stands.

I have used ourworldindata.org/coronavirus as the my source & data have been collected today at 3:00 PM IST.

The thread will keep growing.
2/n The first important thing to analyse was Confirmed Cases/ Millions based on Cumulative calculations relative to the country's population.

The crux with major countries is captured in this graph.

USA has 8.20 X, UK has 5.52 X, Germany has 3.31 X /million cases than India.
3/n Here the countries are arranged in order of /million & it also shows relative, absolute change % from March 1, 2020 to Apr 23, 2021

India is at 105th position.

The country whose media celebrated pyre in India is way way top.
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23 Apr
Haha. See from morning I had been saying we should avoid binaries & concentrate on more awakening,but anyways I will answer them based on "my readings & analysis":
1)Yes, Women can read Vedas (Right is BS western concept, it divides)
2)We never had"Sati Pratha"(it was brit conspiracy). I'll never stand for even if hypothetical.
3)I stand for Gharwapasi. I thought ppl would have known my opinion by now.
4)Let us use term "Shudra". I'm against "Shudra" being a Poojari until he has attained all gunas of Brahmin.
We need to understand that having a Dalit Pujari might be symbolic only. Question is that is that Dalit strong enough to attain Brahm Gunas? In fact not many Brahmin (Birth) too have Brahm Guna
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22 Apr
A poem by Savarkar—

O, Beautiful Hindusthan! Our very soul you are! O, beloved Hindusthan,

The most delightful one of all you are!

So many Lands seen and heard of, Beside her, all so very small do seem! Puny are Egypt, China, and Japan, Britain very much a hell, I deem!
So many mountains there are-
Himalaya, the Most Esteemed One, is yours

So many rivers there are-
Holy Ganga, the River of Flowing Nectar, is yours!

We have lush and divine forests here
Steeped in the musk of the Kasturi deer.
We have the glorious mango groves here
Where cooing Koyals bring in the morning cheer!

The melodious chanting of the Samaveda
Through the fragrant sacrificial smoke resounding, Lures the Gods from their heavenly abode

To come here for their Somras carousing.
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22 Apr
Dear @FeminismInIndia , you have chosen wrong civilisation(Hindu) to attack. Even majority precedents don’t support your claims.

We say in Manusmriti 3.56:

यत्र नार्यस्तु पूज्यन्ते रमन्ते तत्र देवताः ।
यत्रैतास्तु न पूज्यन्ते सर्वास्तत्राफलाः क्रियाः ॥

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Where women are honoured,there the gods rejoice;where,on the other hand, they are not honoured, there all rites are fruitless.—Manusmriti 3.56

& @FeminismInIndia precedents are urging you to talk of other cultures. Can you?
Or @FeminismInIndia are you indeed a puppet in hand of Marxists who see even Male & female as class, where too class struggle needs to be induced?

& since you are Marxist puppet you won’t question current allies right?
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