Hearing of #SpyCopsInquiry stopped in mid-flow as #spycop “Dave Robertson” was answering questions.
I understand that hearing was “paused“ while inquiry investigates what it calls a potential breach of a restriction order.
Does not seem to be an issue with Qs or As. #spycops
Journalists listening to #SpyCopsInquiry virtually are hearing audio with a 10-minute delay, so maybe something was said in the 10mins that has caused a problem with a restriction order.
There are zillions of restriction orders to protect identities of zillions of #spycops.
Hearing still suspended.
But in his witness statement, #spycop “Dave Robertson” tells #SpyCopsInquiry: “I did not engage in any sexual activity whilst in my undercover identity. This would have been completely inappropriate.” #spycops
Hearing resumes.
A distinctly miffed-sounding Sir John Mitting, #SpyCopsInquiry chairman, says that “Dave Robertson” did not breach any restriction order.
A claim that he did so from lawyers for a multitude of #spycops “should not have been made,” he adds severely.
“Dave Robertson” to #SpyCopsInquiry: “Although in hindsight the Maoist groups may not actually have posed a particular threat, this may not have been understood at the time... it was also important for the police to have negative intelligence so as not to waste police resources.”
“Dave Robertson” tells #SpyCopsInquiry in his witness statement: “My SDS deployment ended in December 1973 when I was recognised at a meeting at the London School of Economics by a woman called Ethel...”
“Ethel said in a loud voice: ‘Here are Scotland Yard come to take us away,’“ says “Dave Robertson” to #SpyCopsInquiry.
“Not many people picked up on it, but I still made my excuses and left at the first opportunity.”
“Dave Robertson” tells #SpyCopsInquiry in his witness statement of an extraordinary meeting the following day “or very soon after” with the head of Special Branch, Vic Gilbert, and the Met’s deputy commissioner, Roland Watts... #spycops
“They came with a masterplan that if I was ever confronted about being a UCO, I should say that I was acting completely ‘off my own bat’ and that my superior officers were unaware of what I was doing…” says “Dave Robertson” to #SpyCopsInquiry.
“I was livid that they refused to take responsibility and walked away from them both,” says #spycop “Dave Robertson” to #SpyCopsInquiry about his extraordinary meeting with the head of Special Branch and Met’s no. 2 after he was rumbled.
“Dave Robertson” tells #SpyCopsInquiry: “I withdrew from all undercover activities... I never again made contact with the people I had known as a UCO.”
“People came and went in Maoist circles... I was not concerned that it would appear particularly suspicious.” #spycops
“Dave Robertson” denies to #SpyCopsInquiry Diane Langford’s account of how he was rumbled (see thread).
“I did not grab Ethel by the wrist.”
He “gave Ethel a hug and whispered in her ear” to ask her not to say who he was.
Back on his meeting with Special Branch and Met chiefs, “Dave Robertson”: “They were really only concerned with how Special Branch could be protected.“
“I would have wanted some sympathy for my position, and I was certainly not expecting them to say what they did.”
Sir John Mitting asks “Dave Robertson” whether he spoke to Ethel after bumping into her at the activists’ meeting where he was compromised.
“After that incident, I never saw her again,” he replies. #spycops
Sir John Mitting tells “Dave Robertson” that he is free to go.
Phillippa Kaufmann, barrister for women deceived by #spycops into relationships, starts to ask for clarification.
Mitting says sharply: “I am not here to answer your questions.” He immediately adjourns for lunch.
Second #spycop of the day, “Alex Sloan” on the virtual stand at #SpyCopsInquiry hearing.
He infiltrated the Irish National Liberation Solidarity Front in 1971, but being undercover was difficult. “You can remember the truth easily, but remembering your lies is very difficult.”
“Alex Sloan” in his witness statement to #SpyCopsInquiry: he was “withdrawn due to a confrontation” at a meeting.
“Two members of the group stated that I was a ‘pig’. The only credible reaction was to grab one of the members of the group and escalate the situation.”
David Barr, #SpyCopsInquiry counsel: Attorney Gen has undertaken not to prosecute anyone for anything said in evidence.
“Sloan”: “I didn’t touch him, I just threatened him.” #spycops
And #SpyCopsInquiry hearing is suddenly cut again. Probably because of an issue that has arisen during the 10min gap between the hearing and the relayed audio feed.
Sir John Mitting does not explain exactly why the suspension, saying: “It was a storm in a teacup,” and that everyone is learning as they go along.
Sir John Mitting, #SpyCopsInquiry chairman, thanks “Alex Sloan”, saying: “It is fascinating to me listening to honest witnesses describing unusual events 50 years ago from slightly different points of view.”
Piers Corbyn, activist and brother of Jeremy Corbyn.
Ernest Rodker, anti-apartheid campaigner and one of several who may have been victim of miscarriage of justice over protest against British Lions rugby tour to South Africa in 1972.
Piers Corbyn, an activist since his student days, says in witness statement to #SpyCopsInquiry that it has disclosed 53 #spycops reports from 1971 to 1990 that mention his name.
But he believes that the reports “are only a fraction” of Special Branch and MI5 files on him.
Piers Corbyn tells #SpyCopsInquiry that he was a student at Imperial College from 1965, became a member of International Marxist Group in 1971 and was active in the squatting movement from about 1972.
At least eight #spycops reported on him between 1968 and 1983.
Second phase of #SpyCopsInquiry hearings, covering 1972 to 1982, due to begin this morning at 10am.
Eight former #spycops set to testify in this phase.
Meanwhile, third phase of hearings, when #spycops managers are due to be called, DELAYED from October to first half of 2022.
David Barr, counsel to #SpyCopsInquiry, says that evidence to be heard in this phase of hearings will require inquiry chairman to consider whether there are grounds to believe that activities of #spycops led to specific miscarriages of justice.
Sir John Mitting, #SpyCopsInquiry chairman, plans to consider whether to make any referral of possible miscarriages of justice to a special panel to make determinations after this phase of hearings, David Barr says.
Day 12 of #SpyCopsInquiry – fireworks expected: Dave Smith, of Blacklist Support Group, due to give his belated opening statement on what was due to be a non-sitting day.
Then lawyers for non-core participants to make an application on the scope of questioning for witnesses.
Dave Smith tells #SpyCopsInquiry that Blacklist Support Group represents union members who were blacklisted by construction companies. “When we first spoke about being blacklisted for our union activities we were ignored by the authorities and ridiculed as conspiracy theorists.”
Dave Smith in opening statement to #SpyCopsInquiry: “But blacklisting is not a conspiracy theory. It is a real life conspiracy: secretly organised by multinational construction firms with the collusion of the police and the security services.”
Day 11 of #SpyCopsInquiry: two #spycops who operated in 1969-72 due to be called – “Dick Epps” and “Alan Nixon”/”Alan Bailey”.
Summary of evidence from third #spycop in 1968-69, whose cover name (as well as real name) is being kept secret, due to be read out by inquiry lawyer.
“Dick Epps” in his statement to #SpyCopsInquiry on Conrad Dixon, who set up and headed Met’s SDS, its initial #spycop unit. “Conrad was a clever man, but also an ambitious and devious man. He saw an opportunity for himself as well as an opportunity to create something useful.”
As a Special Branch officer but before becoming a #spycop, “Dick Epps” was deployed to US embassy at time of the anti-Vietnam war demonstrations.
He says in statement: “The Americans had set up a machine gun inside the lobby of the building, ready to defend it if necessary.”