Present-day Muslims who do not study history think that Quranists are a new movement.

However, the ๐˜”๐˜ถ'๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜ป๐˜ช๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ด (in the 8th century) and ๐˜ˆ๐˜ฉ๐˜ญ ๐˜ข๐˜ญ-๐˜ฌ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ขฬ„๐˜ฎ before them, were opponents of Imam Al-Shafiโ€˜i ...

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...and his principle that the final authority of Islam was the hadith of Muhammad, so that even the Qur'an was "to be interpreted in the light of [the hadith], and not vice versa."
๐˜ˆ๐˜ฉ๐˜ญ ๐˜ข๐˜ญ-๐˜ฌ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ขฬ„๐˜ฎ argued to the contrary, that the book of God was an explanation of everything (16:89), and that verses in the Qur'an ordering Muslims to obey the Messenger meant that Muslims should obey the Qur'an, which God had revealed through Muhammad.
During the time of Imam Shafiโ€˜i (who is responsible for the adoption of the concept of Sunna being binding upon all Muslims) there was opposition by the ๐˜ˆ๐˜ฉ๐˜ญ ๐˜ข๐˜ญ-๐˜ฌ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ขฬ„๐˜ฎ, challenging the currently accepted position of Sunna.
Shafiโ€˜i's belief was that "sunna stands on equal footing with Quran" (Brown p8). "๐˜ˆ๐˜ฉ๐˜ญ ๐˜ข๐˜ญ-๐˜ฌ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ขฬ„๐˜ฎ... rejected hadith altogether in favour of reliance on the Quran alone" (Brown p8). Obviously, the Shafi group (๐˜ข๐˜ด๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ฃ ๐˜ข๐˜ญ-๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ฉ) won the battle.
All this was happening about 200 years after hijrah.

from: "Rethinking Tradition in Modern Islamic Thought" by Daniel Brownโ€ฆ
Imam Shafi'i is responsible for the adoption of the concept of Sunna being binding upon Mฬถuฬถsฬถlฬถiฬถmฬถsฬถ Sunnis.

Read that again.

Not the Qur'an, not the Prophet.

Imam Shafi'i.
c.f: Philosophy of Ahl Al-Kalฤm for those interested in this topic
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