My opinion is that a Phase II joint study conducted under the same terms by the same team would be a monumental waste of time and resources.
By all means they can go ahead with it, but a separate actual investigation(s) are required.
Their approach is not even suitable for investigating natural origins, not to mention lab origins.
For instance, did any of the team members or journalists who read their report relay publicly that they had not visited the Wuhan Central Hospital or reviewed its patient data?
This was the hospital where the 2 most prominent doctor whistleblowers worked. This was also the hospital where some of the earliest cases were detected - the 1st reported test result for bat SARS-like coronavirus.
Yet, there’s no coverage of these details in the team’s report.
Most of the adult ILI analysis was based on a single hospital. And, page 26/120: "It should be noted that no samples from adults were available for testing in the last three weeks of December 2019, so conclusions about SARS-CoV-2 causing ILI in adults in December cannot be made."
Page 23 tells us that most of the cases of SARI reported in the sentinel surveillance in Hubei were in children and based on ONE hospital located OUTSIDE of Wuhan.
How could any of these data (not even accessible btw) tell us about when SARS2 first appeared in Wuhan?
Page 40 tells us that even the death count per region analyzed was sub-sampled. Does Wuhan city and Hubei province not record when each person passes away?
There is no raw data on early cases. Making it difficult to understand if there were clusters or superspreading events leading to higher case counts in different parts of the city.
There is no detail on when case count data had been collected. Had they known this in Jan 2020?
There is so much more to say about this full report (some of it technical) but would result in a 🧵 spanning maybe 20 pages.
I don't understand how journalists with scientific training could confidently report the China-WHO team's conclusions without expressing some skepticism.
Eg the case for #PopsicleOrigins gets even weaker when reading the report.
No animals of foreign origin identified in records, late Dec 2019.
No domestic origin cold chain products between Sep-Dec 2019.
No positive animal samples at all in Wuhan markets and upstream suppliers.
None of the first Covid-19 cases at the Huanan seafood market handled any wildlife meat, frozen or not.
There's no evidence at all of frozen ferret badgers bringing the virus into a Wuhan market, the virus reanimating and infecting its first human victim in the city.
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In an earlier open letter from March 4, 2021, a team of interdisciplinary experts (I am in it too!) pointed out the limitations of the current China-WHO study, and suggest actionable and feasible directions for a true investigation of possible lab origins: s.wsj.net/public/resourc…
Author @StartsWithABang is worried conspiracy theories could threaten scientific autonomy of select scientists whose work can have catastrophic impact. And rightly points out that we live in a world where gov cannot be depended upon to effectively respond to emerging pathogens.
For instance, the country that is potentially the source of a lab escaped pathogen may not tell other countries what was done with virus X in the lab. And other countries, even after seeing videos of mass death, may think their country is magically immune to pandemics.
There’s a new committee formed by highly respected scientists who are laying the groundwork for a national commission on covid-19. One of its focuses is the origins of covid-19.
"“These spillovers take years,” Gray says. “It’s not like in the movies. They go through different steps to infect humans.” So far indications are that the chimeric virus has not evolved to transmit efficiently between people." sciencemag.org/news/2021/05/t…
To find these steps for SARS2, I'd say that getting access to blood samples banked in Chinese cities prior to Dec 2019 is important.
Granting international experts access to the caves and regions in Yunnan, China where SARS2's closest relatives were found is also important.
It's already very surprising that the Chinese government has -still- not performed these basic checks to find the source of SARS2 / COVID-19 and determine when it first emerged in Wuhan. cnn.com/2021/02/21/chi…