Good thread on comedy and "can't joke about that anymore." Distinction between "shock comics," and "perpetual victims" is a good one.
Maybe a 5th category is comics who effectively push boundaries because stuff that's normal to them wasn't talked about (eg Ali Wong on pregnancy).
Maybe a 5th category is comics who effectively push boundaries because stuff that's normal to them wasn't talked about (eg Ali Wong on pregnancy).
https://twitter.com/ZenOfDesign/status/1397423789005185024
Related thought: The culture could use a sketch show that tackles gender identity as well as Chappelle's Show and Key & Peale tackled racial identity.
I fully recognize this wouldn't be easy to do well. (You think what Chappelle and Key & Peale did was easy?)
I fully recognize this wouldn't be easy to do well. (You think what Chappelle and Key & Peale did was easy?)
One reason I like comedy is it changes cultural boundaries.
Classic greats (Bruce, Pryor, Carlin), newer greats (Chappelle, Jeselnik), and I'd add Eddie Izzard on gender identity, Michelle Wolf et. al. on abortion, and others who joke about taboo subjects that shouldn't be taboo.
Classic greats (Bruce, Pryor, Carlin), newer greats (Chappelle, Jeselnik), and I'd add Eddie Izzard on gender identity, Michelle Wolf et. al. on abortion, and others who joke about taboo subjects that shouldn't be taboo.
This is the key point (see also: Carlin on "punching down").
It's not so much that you can't joke about X anymore—though there's some pressure, as always—it's that good comedy is hard, and lazy "look at that different person!" doesn't work like it used to.
It's not so much that you can't joke about X anymore—though there's some pressure, as always—it's that good comedy is hard, and lazy "look at that different person!" doesn't work like it used to.
https://twitter.com/VinodSreeharsha/status/1397570983712722945
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