@Zoe_Vexed @pdxsecularguy The specifics are that the Emancipation movement began as a Christian one and remained primarily driven by Christians. Yes, slave owners also used the Bible to justify slavery, but they had to work against a centuries long Christian tradition of man as "the image of God" and ...
@Zoe_Vexed @pdxsecularguy ... an anti-slavery tradition that went all the way back to Gregory of Nyssa (d. 395). Those Enlightenment thinkers, on the other hand, did more to entrench ideas about the hierarchy of races than somehow break them down. Johann Friedrich Blumenbach’s influential *On the ...
@Zoe_Vexed @pdxsecularguy ... Natural Varieties of Mankind* (1776) was much read and discussed in intellectual salons. Immanuel Kant assured his readers:“In the hot countries the human being matures earlier in all ways but does not reach the perfection of the temperate zones" and said "Negroes are ...
@Zoe_Vexed @pdxsecularguy ... lower and the lowest are a part of the American peoples". John Locke enshrined slavery in his constitution for the Carolinas. And English critics of the American "founding fathers" pointed out their hypocrisy over slavery.
Emancipation began as a Christian movement among ...
@Zoe_Vexed @pdxsecularguy ... the Quakers and was widely ridiculed by the high minded thinkers of "the Enlightenment". Thomas Clarkson and William Wilberforce - both motivated by Christianity. William Lloyd Garrison and Frederick Douglass - same. No ancient pagan writer ever condemned slavery and ...
@Zoe_Vexed @pdxsecularguy ... said it should be abolished. The first ancient writer to do so was a Christian, working from Christian ideas.

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@RationalityRule The problem with just quoting nineteenth century freethinkers like Mark Twain/Samuel Clemens is they were terrible at history. Here Clemens is just parroting the notoriously bad pseudo history of Andrew Dickson White in his *History of the Warfare of Science with Theology and ...
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@Bellerophon77 @RationalityRule Completely. This @RationalityRule person is another lazy anti-theist who peddles memes about history without bothering to check his facts. To start with, the letter in question is dated August 19, 1610. So it has absolutely nothing to do with any "incessant attempts to censor ...
@Bellerophon77 @RationalityRule ... his helicentric observations" by the Church, given that they didn't care at all about either his "observations" or his belief in heliocentrism prior to 1615. In fact, in 1610 they *celebrated* his observations and in 1611 they invited him to Rome for audiences with ...
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@zebril8 @story_cosmos The fact that we have earlier fragments of the gospels than for almost all other ancient works is correct. But not terribly significant. Manuscript survival is a function of two things: (i) the popularity of the work and (ii) the incentive to maintain a chain of transmission. ...
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