No, I am sorry. I don't care if you are a "history buff" you do not, under any circumstances get to make pronouncements about Nazi collaborators based off of a wikipedia article and girlboss vibes.
Here are some excerpts from Kelly Ricciardi Colvin's Gender and French Identity:
Gender and French Identity after the Second World War, 1944-1954:
"At first she [Violette] had been part of a reconnaissance cell, one which would track down Resistance members and turn them in and she also concerned herself with economic requisitioning for Germans.
She denounced members of the French Resistance and participated in deadly raids, and she was at least party responsible for the deaths of dozens of resistors. As the war went on, she transitioned to physical violence, becoming, according to one historian, one of two
"chief woman interrogators" for the Gestapo.
One young woman remembered her interrogation at the hands of Violette as sexually humiliating and excruciatingly painful. ... When the young woman, Odile S., continued to refuse to speak, Violette "throws her to the ground and beats
her black and blue on the back, the thoights, the face on which the whip prints some reddish stripes." Odile remembered that she passed out, and when she awoke she was laying on a sofa, and looked over at Violette... Her reputation was such that she was known in the
Resistance as "la terrible Violette Morris" and the most "obsessed" of all the torturers. One Resistance member, Suzanne Leverrier, remembered questioning by Violette as horrific. She was detained and taken to the rue de Saussaies for questioning, and heard awful screams as she
was led upstairs:
"The first thing I saw, it was a woman entirely nude suspended by her wrists to a big hook set in the ceiling. Her head fell forward on her side like that of Christ on the cross, and her hair masked her face. Her body was covered with red and blue marks [and]
criss-crossed with trickles of blood ... Violette Morris headed over to the woman and, seizing her by her hair, threw her haid back. "You recognize her?" [she asked Suzanne]"
Suzanne denied knowing the woman and thus provoked Moris's anger toward the suspended woman.
Suzanne remembered watching the scene: "I was petrified, terrorized, I was shaken by a nervous trembling ... La Morris was enraged, she alternated bursts of blows with burnings and a lighter. " p. 130
I use Colvin here because this is where I first learned about Violette. I would add that this is all fully footnoted and impeccably researched, unlike, and I cannot stress this enough WIKIPEDIA.
I have no idea why some non-historians are so desperate to rehabilitate a Nazi collaborator, but it is unhelpful, pathetic, and honestly you are showing your ass here. You need to sit down and read some honest to god books as opposed to trying to tumblr uplift this woman.
If you are such a history person you will learn to read books and research things before you try to rehabilitate people because you conflate someone's sexuality with a theoretical inherent goodness. That's some modern liberal nonsense and you need to interrogate yourself about it
More to the point, it is for this reason that what that Women's History account did was wrong. Oh they didn't mean to celebrate her? Well this entire hellsite is writing threads recusing her of her collaboration with the Nazis now, so where are you with that? Doing anything?
TFW you are definitely working to undo the damage you have done instead of expecting other public historians to pick up the pieces.
Really begging people who I follow/who follow me to stop sharing that "history nerd"'s ahistorical twitter thread of nonsense.
I don't want to pile on him because he has made a (very serious) mistake here, and it's just some little account, but come on.
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Going to try to use my big platform or whatev to point out that this post is still up after 8 hours and the replies are absolutely swarming with Nazi apologists who are defending the Hyena of the Gestapo. Public historians have a responsibility not to celebrate people like this.
And yes, it is clearly celebratory. When someone tortured people for the Gestapo you lead with that. That is the thing about them. Everything g else is background colour. Pretending otherwise emboldens fascists, and the replies here are testament to that fact.
If you say you want to prove that women don't always have to be good, fine, but you then frame the post around how this woman was a fascist and tortured people. You do not do a friendly little write up about her and occlude what she did.
I will save you the clicks. The "misuse of history" that Doug here is complaining about is "saying things that happened that make him feel sad."
The misuse of history is ipso facto the doing of history. He wants a whitewashed fictional history where Britain are the good guys.
Non historians love to say that doing history - interpreting the past and attempting to explain why events happen is a "misuse" because they think history is something which exists to aggrandise them. And to be fair it often is because of how textbooks are made and why.
Real history, however, doesn't gloss over stuff you don't like. It has to grapple with Britain's refusal to take in Jewish refugees during WWII, oh and the cheeky refugees it sent to prison camps in Australia just in case they were spies. You know. Whatever.
Watching Come Dine With Me on Netflix and absolutely losing it at these two terrible people in Durham. I would like to stan @AshleighMenzie1 for life. She is so clever, sweet, brave, and a cracking cook. I just adore her.
Also totally open to going over to Stephen's for dinner. Love this scrumpy and venison vibe. So great.
This is a Come Dine With me/ Ashleigh and Stephen Stan account.
For your Friday consideration, this week's blog is a cross-over episode where I talk with sex and relationships expert @bishtraining about No Nut November, #histsex, and why it matters to us now. Check it.
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I am 100% the Mr Peanutbutter in this situation.
The good news is that it is a video so you don't even have to read.