Starting a thread for the fully vaccinated who get infected.

We might have a small sense of how frequently it is occurring -currently when we still have restrictions, but cases rising rapidly.

Also because #CovidJavid has announced no isolation for the fully vaccinated contacts
Please add to this and circulate and promote so I can link into the main thread.

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Also. Please specify if more than 14 days post vax

And which vaccine.
Andrew Marr. Fully vaxxed “months ago” and two LFT negatives
Andrew Marr. Not just double vaxxed “months ago” but returned two negative LFT before a PCR positive and nasty symptoms.
People : “but if fully vaccinated people get it they don’t end up in hospital”

They are certainly markedly less likely TO get Covid (GOOD…but how well with that stand up with high prevalence and fewer restrictions) BUT if you DO get Covid even the fully vaccinated are at risk
The most recent PHE report.

Risk of GETTING delta markedly reduced (about 7.68% of all cases) 👏👏👏

BUT if you do get it your risk of being hospitalised is 2.62% of all vaxxed people infected.

If over 50 then the risk rises to 4.6% About 3 times ⬇️than unvaxxed
So. My concern is how well we can hold back the risk of infection - thus onward risks- when prevalence is very high.

The expectation from the presser yesterday and #CovidJavid ‘s statements is that it is highly likely to be very high.
Prof Cole.
As Marr said. People might use the term “mild to moderate” for reinfection that falls short of hospitalisation but it can still feel very very unpleasant.

And you’d be unable to work with it,
Other countries that predominantly use Pfizer or Moderna are also experienced breakthrough infections.

They are to be expected.

But this is to try and get a feel for risks as we drop precautions

For instance which of us are thinking of this (US example here)
Pat Turner’s wife and also friend (who seems to have got it a bit worse).

Maybe him but it looks as if he was not tested.

Makes me wonder how many vaxxed won’t be tested.
Dr Kathryn Mannix relative.

The point is that even very good vaccinations cannot do all the heavy lifting esp when prevalence is high. As it is. And likely to get higher as restrictions ease.

Avoidable.
Sharon was Double jabbed at the end of March.

No matter how good the vaccines (& we have reason to believe they are) they cannot do all the heavy lifting especially in times of high prevalence.

Which is why experts were saying get prevalence right down AND vaccinate like hell
Mark fully vaccinated in May. PCR positive July

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