Thread by @Timotero2

Ok

NazBol Thread

No introduction, no anything, let's get to the point before I give up on life.

We must make two distinctions when dealing with the term "NazBol" as a whole, many people just interpret it as what "Third Position" is, that is, just mixing random...

left and right policies and going around stanning Stalin and the Austrian Painter, or by default, they slander Left leaning Fascists as NazBols. These attitudes obliterate the meaning of the word and the implications of its beliefs by making it a caricature, thus...

making it hard for people to even know what NazBol even is. So, the distinctions are the following; the first one is the Fascist that is very left leaning, and calls himself a NazBol, but his overall purpose is to make Fascists more open to left wing...

labor oriented ideas. This was the case in my country, where a sudden rise of NazBol personalities appeared, but in reality it was with the sole purpose of making Fascists more accepting of Left wing ideas that could appeal to the working class...

given the fact that in a place like México, it has always been a tendency (since the 1910 Revolution) for the masses to lean left. In the US we can see the same type of NazBolism by people that join groups shitposting as NazBols with fringe ideologies...

like Maoist-Hitlerism or Stalinist-Mussolinism but overall it's with the intention of grooming people torwards more left leaning ideas, not really NazBolism.

The other form is actual NazBolism, that is, doctrine based NazBol, not just le epic shitpost...

this type basically is on the fence, facing Communism and Fascism on the other side, it works both ways. Either as a pipeline for Fascists to become Communists, or for Communists to go Fascist. It is indeed a strange position to take.

Nevertheless, no matter how taboo it is, truth of the matter is that NazBolism actually had its own ideologues, and it wasnt LE DUGINIST BOLSHEVIK as some right wingers try to see it as, or just simply pin it down to Limonov.

It goes from Ernst Niekisch, Karl Paetel, Anton Drexler (Yes, the original founder of the DAP that would later on become the NSDAP), Early Joseph Goebbels, among others. I wouldn't really consider the Strasser brothers to be NazBol, given the fact they'd...

even get criticized and teased by personalities such as Paetel in his NazBol Manifesto, which, DOES EXIST. There is a full National Bolshevik Manifesto, and I shall attach a link to it in case anybody is interested (spergs):

arplan.org/2019/06/02/pae…

The page I attached also touches on NazBol as a whole with its very early thinkers of it, plus writings by other Fascist leaders, so it is a good resource for many topics. Either way, the ideology as a whole is quite the experience...

it can basically be summarized along the following lines; "Communism" in One Nation, Internationalism without Removing the Nation, Marxist and Non Marxist Dialectics with certain changes of perspective and understanding of them. It's basically "Workers of my land, UNITE!".

Figures such as Goebbels praised the early Soviet Union insofar as it adopted a form of "Red Fascism", that is, they could have their Bolshevik policies as long as they do it through a national lence that adopts the requests of the Russian Population.

This type of view sorta goes along the lines of calling certain ML Countries a form of Red Fascism, that is nationally aware Communist nations that adopted one or two things similar to Fascism.

Then we have figures such as Nicola Bombacci, I wouldn't call him a NazBol, but his views resembled a similar POV among many left leaning Fascists, and that was seeing similarities between Fascism and Socialist States such as the USSR...

it wasn't really out of comparison to point out how good they both were, but to make the claim that it is Fascists that are achieving Socialism/Communism. That is to say, us Fascists can do what Commies want to do, but better and actually getting it done.

It sorta goes along the lines of Fascist Socialism really, and it ends up having similar policies, which, the Italian Social Republic for example, actually carried some of the things Paetel wanted to accomplish with his NazBolism. This type of dialectic...

goes around the lines of the "Fascist Anarchist" or "Fascist Democrat". It is stating that us Fascists can accomplish Communism, Democracy, Anarchy, Liberty, Equality, etc. All depending on the dialectic we approach.

This is another issue and what gets many uncomfortable, just because a Fascist is leaning left on certain issues, it doesnt automatically mean NAZBOL, because ironically enough most NazBols straight up opposed Fascism and joined One Struggles against the ideology.

A NazBol is certainly a Third Positionist, but I wouldn't really argue he's a Fascist per se. As I said, he should be rightfully considered as a door between Communism and Fascism, all depending on the (insane) person stepping in said place.

It has to be pointed out that actual NazBols are very few, we are talking about 5 crack addicts on a corner hailing at Hitler and Stalin. Most are either shitposters or just trying to open the door for left wing policies, which can either be good or bad...

depending on the person, given the fact that it is indeed common for both NazBols and Strasserites to be Femboys or something similar, which ends in bizarre propositions of One Struggles and twisted fetishization of transexualism. Can't really know why🤷‍♂️

The ideology even has some of its roots in the French Revolution, so, it's not just a simple concept or shitpost that can be summarized with le left wing policies and nationalism, since it goes way beyond that, so it is indeed an actual topic of research.

The people that voted for this belong in Rice Fields, polls have been abolished.

The End.