This applies to *all* pundits regardless of topic or profession, actually.

An interesting (I hope) anecdote follows. 1/ mcgill.ca/science/outrea…
in 2010 I was invited by @joeschwarcz to speak about cancer quackery at the Trottier Symposium in Montreal, with @bengoldacre, @michaelshermer, and James Randi. It was a huge honor to me. 2/
The night before the symposium, there was a roundtable discussion with a lot more guests than just the main speakers. 3/
One part of the discussion that I remember (and will always remember) was when someone (I forgot who) said that pundits are chosen to appear on roundtable talking head shows based on how confident and certain they appear in their opinions and how concrete those opinions are. 3/
Basically, the idea is that on these shows (and their radio counterparts) nuance is penalized. If you are too nuanced, if you change your mind in response to arguments, if you, in effect, back down too easily, you won't get invited back on these shows. 4/
The reason is that it's all about the drama, the "debate' (argument, really). It's not about getting closer to the truth (or even just accurate conclusions). It's about the conflict. That doesn't mean that you have to be an obnoxious a-hole, just concrete and immovable. 5/
Not being a media professional in that area, I didn't know how accurate this was, but the assertion rang true. 6/
Just watching talking pundit shows on @CNN, @FoxNews, @MSNBC, etc. sure did make me think that these shows value pundits who stake out concrete, easy-to-understand positions and then don't budge in the face of disconfirming arguments and data. 7/
Of course, incentives of wanting to be invited back aside, there's also the human tendency, once one stakes out a position and becomes publicly known for it, to defend that position to the death and be very, very reluctant to change in the face of disconfirming evidence. 8/
In the era of #COVID19, I think back to that roundtable discussion 11 years ago and see it as prescient. So many of these COVID contrarians do exactly what was described. I'm not saying they do it intentionally (although no doubt some do). 9/
Rather, they find themselves invited on these shows because of their contrarian positions, with more invitations the better known they become. As they become better known, it gets harder and harder for them to admit that they might have been wrong. 10/
What if news actually rewarded more nuanced takes? What if it wasn't about the conflict or the "interesting" or "radical" contrarian take on #COVID19? Where would we be now? 11/11

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12 Aug
Note the weasel wording/buzz words (“not opposed to #covidvaccines IN GENERAL”) that gives away the game. FLCCC is *clearly* antivax. It’s quite obvious from this statement. If this statement were the only thing I knew about FLCCC, I’d say, “Yep, they’re *definitely* antivax.” 1/
So is this shtick about how “some of us are vaccinated.” Antivax mom groups used to say the same thing prepandemic. Antivax pediatricians would say, “Many of my patients are vaccinated.” 2/
Indeed, taking a “neutral” stance on #CovidVaccine like this while spreading fear of the vaccine based on pseudoscience, bad science, and conspiracy theories is a CLASSIC antivax ploy. I am not fooled. No one should be fooled. 3/
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11 Aug
Amazing how many people have credulously fallen for @missmayim's attempt to memory hole her previous antivaccine stylings by doing a video last fall saying she'd get #CovidVaccine and then bragging about how she got it when she finally did. Actually, no, it's not amazing.
In any event, Bialik hasn't really changed, at least not much. She still spews antivax talking points but has just decided that she thinks #CovidVaccine is OK because of how bad #COVID19 is.
For a reminder, this is the sort of antivax nonsense she was spewing in 2012. What she says in the video in the previous Tweet is not materially much different, if different at all, just "kinder, gentler" and more canny. respectfulinsolence.com/2012/02/21/say…
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11 Aug
WTF, @jeopardy? This is in a way almost worse than the first deal. So now, on the one hand, you have a man with a history of misogyny hosting part of the time. On the other hand, you have an antivaxxer and supplement hawker @missmayim hosting the rest.🙄🤦🏻‍♂️ washingtonpost.com/arts-entertain…
What's a @jeopardy fan to do. Alex Trebek must be doing backflips in his grave right now.
I mean, @jeopardy: Do you remember all the times Alex Trebek made nasty comments about pregnant models or fired them? I don't either. Ditto the times he promoted antivaccine misinformation and hawked bogus "brain health" supplements.
Read 8 tweets
10 Aug
Back in the early days of my blog, I had a recurring shtick in which I’d go on and on and on about feeling the need to put a paper bag over my head whenever a fellow surgeon wrote embarrassing pseudoscience. 2/
Back in those days, it was mostly surgeons spewing evolution denial (a.k.a.) creationist nonsense. (A certain frequently offending neurosurgeon comes to mind.) 3/
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21 Jul
Having unwillingly undergone a five week intensive exposure to "gender critical" arguments, I've concluded that a disturbing number of them boil down to taking "Ew, trans people ick me out" and cranking that feeling up to, "Trans people are an abomination against nature/God/etc."
Look, there are scientific controversies surrounding the treatment of trans adolescents, but a dispassionate, science-based discussion of how best to medically and surgically treat trans teens is not what the GC movement is about.
Moreover, science denialism is less about how "settled" a given scientific/medical issue is and more about the types of misleading arguments and conspiracy theories deployed against that issue.
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19 Jul
Some very basic points:
1. You should know that the Nuremberg Code ONLY applies to human subjects research. You should ALSO know that, after phase 3 trials with 10s of thousands of subjects and hundreds of millions of doses, #CovidVaccine is NOT human subjects research anymore.
2. Calling #CovidVaccine "experimental" is a conflation of a legal definition of "investigational," in which @US_FDA requires that designation on any drug not yet given a full FDA approval. Scientifically, it's just not true any more.
3. The Nuremberg Code is nearly 75 yrs old and mainly of historical interest. It was long ago supplanted by the Belmont Report and Declaration of Helsinki. Both ALSO emphasize informed consent, but antivaxxers love the Nuremberg Code because of its association with Nazi doctors.
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