Here's one interesting observation from the week since I filed my case: some vaccinated people lecture me that Covid-recovered should get forced vax despite the fact that there is no trial data on safety (Covid-recovered were purposely excluded from the trial)...
and that there is not just the ordinary risk of side-effects (which is why responsible doctors ALWAYS avoid unnecessary treatments and procedures including vaccination) but actually ELEVATED risks of adverse effects...
because in their opinion (after reading a blog post describing a news article about one study that they have no idea of the quality or other contrary evidence) they conclude that it would enhance immunity protection...
Yet when you ask them if they should be forced to intentionally infect themselves with Covid so that they would "enhance" their vaccine infection with natural immunity, all of a sudden the marginal risk relative to the marginal benefit becomes really important!
In other words, when it comes to my health, risk doesn't matter if they think it will benefit them, no matter how infinitesimally and speculatively. But when it comes to them doing the same, its all about the risk!
Usually this is followed by a lecture about how great their vaccine protection is, and so how really even if they were to get a breakthrough infection its no big deal, because they are protected from serious disease....
Nothing is holding you back from volunteering to lead by example! Please arrange to intentionally get infected and augment with natural immunity. And if you aren't willing to do that because you think the risk>benefit, why would you possibly think you should coerce me?
We both have immunity. NEITHER form of additional immunity is risk free. But the difference is that its pretty well recognized that vax+NI actually would increase overall immunity and variant protection.
Whereas minimal evidence that NI+full vax provides minimal benefit relative to (elevated) risks).
PS: Just a little tip, if you haven't actually suffered through Covid, its really really not a good look to lecture those of us who have that we are being reckless or dismissive. I am quite, quite certain I know more about what it is like to have Covid than you.
I have had Covid. I don't want to get Covid again. I don't want to expose any of my family, friends, or anyone else to Covid. If there was reason for to believe that AT THE CURRENT TIME the marginal benefit of vax>marginal risk, the my immunologist and I would do it. Duh.
But seriously folks, you aren't my doctor. You know NOTHING about my medical history or current level of immune protection. So how about you don't force unnecessary and potentially risky medical procedures on me because you read a headline in a news article about a study...
Unless you are willing to walk the walk and voluntarily infect yourself to gain natural immunity. Otherwise, its really time for you to stop coercing paint-by-numbers, one-size-fits-all algorithmic medicine on everyone else.
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What about college students, school kids, and other young healthy people (such as military) who have recovered from Covid, have natural immunity, and are being forced (or pressured) to be vaccinated?
Well here's the deal--everything that applies in my case (mid-50s, good immune system, healthy) applies EVEN MORE to them.
Baseline risk for young people even without vaccine is very low, especially for serious illness. Risk post-natural immunity is even lower. We are taking as close to bullet-proof zero risk as you are likely to find.
For those of you who have recently recovered and are being pressured to get the vaccine, next time someone tells you that ask them if they would recommend that you get vaccinated against any other virus while concurrently or recently infected....
I had shingles this spring and after recovery asked my doctor if I should get the shingles vax. He looked at me as if it was the most foolish question he had ever heard and said patiently, "Well no. Of course not. You do not vaccinate right after you have a virus....
"Because it presents a high risk of hyperinflaming your immune system. Its dangerous and unnecessary. Come back in a few months and we'll check your antibodies level and see if it is safe and efficacious then."
Its extremely good that for now vaccination is mitigating serious disease and death. But MANDATES are legally justified only if they substantially limit infection and transmission. Which requires a careful calibration of marginal benefits and marginal costs. Not anything goes.
Economists call this "externalities." But if the benefit of a decision is largely private not external, then that's a matter for private choice. Indeed, to the extent that vaccination makes it less likely that a person is infected and contagious because no symptoms...
Then they are actually CREATING externalities. This is known as the "Peltzman Effect" (or "Seatbelt Effect") named after a famous example by the great economist Sam Peltzman who noticed that mandatory seatbelt laws reduced fatalities to drivers...
Its generally recognized that natural immunity provides better protection against SARS-CoV-2 variants than vaccination with a narrow vaccine designed to target the now-extinct original variant because natural immunity recognizes the entire complement of proteins. 1/
But some people still have trouble understanding why that is. This marvelous cellular-level analysis that was just posted a couple of days ago is really informative to explain the underlying process. cure-hub.com/post/sars-cov-… 2/
The whole thing is worth reading carefully and analyzing all of the data and Figures that usefully illustrate the concepts. 3/