I have no problem with boosters allowed at 8 months for people who want them.

Is there American data indicating waning immunity against Delta? No. Nothing substantial.

Is there uncertainty about protective efficacy against Delta COVID-19 at 6 months? Yes 🧵
The COVID vaccines are incredible--they have exceeded all expectations. But, Delta is tougher to stop. It is so transmissible. The original coronavirus wasn't that hard for the immune system to stop, and 2-doses of vaccine worked amazing.
2-dose gives overall good immune memory. New Moderna science paper on antibodies at 6 months. Our T cell data. Multiple memory B cell data. The COVID vaccines have worked incredibly well! Six month clinical trial efficacies of 91% and 93%.
And at this moment in the Delta pandemic, the US experience had been fewer than 5 percent of the people being hospitalized and dying are fully vaccinated. Outstanding efficacy against severe disease and death!
Could the protection be better and longer lasting, against Delta? Some Delta breakthrough infections are occurring, and a booster dose would prevent most of those, so yes, a booster will improve immunity. Is it NEEDED? Uncertain.
And the US experience so far has been that the vaccines are working great against Delta (though imperfect compared to how amazing they were against Alpha)
But there is uncertainly now about whether high levels of protection last, and so a “better safe than sorry” policy of having boosters available to people who want them is quite reasonable, from a science perspective. And making that decision now makes sense.
The uncertainty about waning immunity mostly comes from Israeli reports

scientificamerican.com/article/should…
But also some other studies. Including some evidence of waning in the UK.
While the Israeli data are frustrating in that they haven’t been published in a formal way (and I defer to epi experts), the waning efficacy reports are enough at this point to at least create uncertainty about the durability of immunity against Delta symptomatic COVID-19.
Protection against hospitalization has remained high, but non-hospitalized COVID can be plenty bad, and Long COVID is a real concern.
Having more data on reactogenicity to a 3rd dose would be of real value for safety. It sounds like there is now data in Israel in 1000s of people indicating reactogenicity is the same for the 3rd dose as the 2nd, which is acceptable.

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14 Sep
Our newest study is out in Science!
It cover 5 COVID-19 RNA vaccine topics. Using samples from the "low dose" 25mcg Moderna RNA COVID-19 vaccine clinical trial 🧵👇🏼
science.org/doi/10.1126/sc…
By the LJI team! @Dani6020 @SetteLab @jmateust @ljiresearch
The five finding summarized here:
🔵  T cell memory to an RNA vaccine at 7 months
🔵  Vaccine dose sparing (25mcg v 100mcg)
🔵  Vaccine v. natural immunity
🔵  T cell memory with age
🔵  Pre-existing crossreactive memory T cells: Do they do anything?
🔵  T cell memory to an RNA vaccine:

Impressive T cell memory at 7 months (6 months after 2nd dose). CD4s & CD8s. Tfh & cytokine+.

Overall, looks like two doses of an RNA vaccine generates impressive T cell memory that is likely to last for many years.
Even 25mcg Moderna dose
Read 12 tweets
31 Aug
Just a friendly reminder that this study also addressed natural immunity compared to vaccine immunity. Vaccine immunity did somewhat better than natural immunity, including against Delta. Image
In that large, carefully done, prospective, longitudinal study in the UK of over 300,000 people with regular testing, both vaccine immunity and natural immunity showed significant protection against COVID-19, with vaccine immunity doing somewhat better than natural immunity. ImageImage
As a prospective study, with a randomization component, the conclusions have higher confidence compared to some other studies. including against Delta.
Read 4 tweets
21 Aug
Boosters+global equity:
Practically speaking, the US should continue to retain enough doses to vaccinate all unvaccinated Americans. But resistance to vaccination remains high, so there is probably little to no real cost in allowing Americans who want boosters to get a 3rd dose
The USA has to keep trying hard to vaccinate the unvaccinated. But many of those reserved doses will likely expire otherwise, sadly.

Discussed some in the chat with @CarlosdelRio7 @Bob_Wachter at the end
Any vaccine dose given to an unvaccinated American is FAR more valuable than a 3rd dose given to a vaccinated American. For preventing deaths, hospitalizations, cases, and transmissions.
washingtonpost.com/outlook/corona…
Read 7 tweets
20 Aug
The science of COVID-19 booster vaccines 🧵

Will the boosters works?
Yes.
They work really well. Great clinical trial results.
Antibody levels go back to peak or 4x more, and the booster teaches your immune system to recognize Delta even better.

Many vaccines are 3-doses
You will also probably have more durable immune memory after the COVID vaccine booster (including antibodies, CD4 T cells, CD8 T cells, and memory B cells). Not guaranteed, but likely.
That's because your immune system is basically a cost:benefit analysis machine.
Immune memory / protective immunity has a real caloric cost over time. If your immune system sees something once, it doesn't tend to commit much energy into making memory and sustaining all of those antibodies. But if your immune system sees an infection 3 times (or a vaccine)…
Read 10 tweets
20 Aug
A very large, well designed study of vaccine efficacy in UK in during Delta or Alpha. 🧵
Take home messages:
🔵 ~86% Pfizer protection from Delta infections Ct < 30
🔵  Peak Delta viral RNA in infected vax and unvaxxed were similar  
🔵  Some evidence of declining immunity
The preprint:
ndm.ox.ac.uk/files/coronavi…
There is a ton in this.
🔵 ~86% Pfizer protection from Delta infections Ct < 30

I very much agree with biostatistics Prof Shiela Bird that focusing on cases with Ct<30 makes sense in these types of surveillance studies. Pfizer Delta protection was 86%, AZ was 69% (Table 2). bit.ly/3sAeqd8
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6 Aug
A huge J&J COVID-19 vaccine study has just been released this morning, including Delta variant cases. ~500,000 person study in South Africa! A careful and well done clinical study by an amazing team, including Glenda Gray.
Take home messages: 🧵
Take home messages:
🔵 ~93% protection from death
🔵  ~71% protection from Delta variant hospitalizations
🔵  Large study
🔵 ~93% protection from death
Clear result. Covers both the Beta variant period and the Delta variant period. Looks to be equal against both.
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