1. Thread about misconceptions that are spread regarding the science:
When someone like @Sadhgurujv makes really stupid statements to discredit how science works I can understand.
But when people with scientific training like Dr. B M Hegde do it, it’s really disappointing.
When someone like @Sadhgurujv makes really stupid statements to discredit how science works I can understand.
But when people with scientific training like Dr. B M Hegde do it, it’s really disappointing.
2. Tl;dw: Dr. B M Hegde talks about how JJ Thomson, GP Thomson(Hegde gets his name wrong in the video) and E Schrodinger successively said that an electron is a particle, then a wave and then a wavicle(mix of particle and wave) and they all got Nobel prizes for what they said.
3. To the average person who hasn’t really studied this, it’ll seem like the scientists don’t know what they are doing. They keep contradicting themselves but the Nobel committee keeps celebrating them for it. And this kind of discrediting of science is what Hegde aims to do.
4. Let’s look at what actually happened and hopefully clear some stuff here. JJ Thompson in 1897 performed the cathode ray experiment. Because of the way the rays behaved and the fact that they could be deflected by an electric field, ...
5. ... he concluded that they are comprised of charged building blocks that the atom had to be made up of.
The particle was named ‘electron’. And there was no reason to believe that it was anything other than a particle.
The particle was named ‘electron’. And there was no reason to believe that it was anything other than a particle.
6. Consequently, Thomson also gave a model of the atom. Note that the electron was the only subatomic particle at the time. So it's the only one in the atom. And the ball of positive charge was just to keep the atom neutral. The model looked something like this - 
7. In 1924, French Physicist Louis de Brglie hypothesised that all particles should also behave like waves. And this was confirmed by GP Thomson in 1927 for which he got the nobel prize in 1937. Again, this doesn’t in any way invalidate what JJ Thompson discovered. ...
8. ... We just added to the conclusion he made that electrons have a wavelike nature. Now here’s the funny bit. Schrodinger got the Nobel Prize in 1933, before GP Thomson. Not for saying electron is a ‘wavicle’...
9. ...but for the Schrodinger equation which describes the quantum mechanical behaviour of subatomic particles.
10. If you go back to the video of Hegde’s speech, he conveniently neglects mentioning the year in which Schrodinger got the prize. And the fact that GP Thomson didn’t discover that an electron was a wave, rather he confirmed the wave-like properties of the electron that had...
11. ...already been postulated. Notice how subtle (I’m sure it was done on purpose) alterations in the details of the story can completely change it’s tone and be used to discredit science? Please be aware of this tactic used by pseudoscience peddlers.
12. If this thread reaches a 100 RT's, I'll analyse Jaggi's model of the atom next xD
I love you guys! Thread crossed a 100 RTs! Looks like you really want that Jaggi analysis huh? Coming right up.
Just wait for me to write something funny and interesting and factual :)
Just wait for me to write something funny and interesting and factual :)
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