Continuing the discussion of the last few tweet storms, it is clear that first principles need to be addressed:
1. what are the powers of legitimate, non-tyrannical government with regards to public health measure 2. how are such decisions rationally made in cost - benefits ...
3. is the present government of the states or FedGov legitimate? Is it tyrannising in any way? 4. for a legitimate or non-legitimate government, what if any limit is their over its power to interfere with domestic affairs politically or economically? 5. legit ways of dissent?
Specifically, which of these are allowed morally and politically, and which if any are effective:
- non-collaboration and non-resistance
- non-collaboration with resistance
- 'protesting' individually or verbally
- mass line of protesting
- armed resistance ('rebellion')
I will simply point out as regards the above that Classical Liberalism and Passive Obedience Theory (classical Toryism or #NRx) give different answers.
Also, that both answer address the illegimate, usurper, tyrant case, but in different ways.
Finally, there is an important edge case:
6. what if the government is legitimate and not tyrannising (for the sake of argument), but the proposed action compelled is in fact false, wrong, or insane?
[ Passive Obedience gives a definite answer to this question by the way ]
In other words, what happens if legitimate 'unitary executive' moment of decision powers (Schmitt, Bush, etc) bump up against the _Salus Populi_
This amounts to asking, is MUTINY justified (Schmitt gave the answer relative to _Benito Cereno_)
This was a real question during the Cold War, with regard to complying with orders to initiate a Nuclear Strike -- those old enough to remember Phil Ochs "Is treason worth a try?"
@GigiSims10 I think it partly takes a while for things to work their course. The Soviet Union took two full generations and maybe more. *If* it did (Golitsyn thesis is a thing)
and I don't think we can be spared our Solzhenitsyn 'Live by Truth' moments.
@GigiSims10 'Embrace the Horror' as linuxhippie said really does mean to face the Truth we are embracing a horror -- mostly where we are coming from, since the actual Truth is not so bad in comparison to the Sleep of Reason.
@GigiSims10 But the first step towards *real* (authentic, truthful) action is a sober assessment of 'where we are at'.
Partly we don't know: I can't tell you whether the Financial Crisis of 2007 ended with the fatal crisis of 2021/22, or if we will *ever* see a technological world like...
btw, I've always thought that the iconic 'plastics' was a deliberate leak of nuclear secrets (a reference to fogbank). Hollywood inside joke. Prove me wrong.
It's ironic that George Bush had to initiate a crash programme to remember how to *make* the fogbank material, just to keep old 70s weapons designs in repair.
I think it is pretty clear that the government is illegitimate (though I'd argue it complies with the altered Constitution of the US -- but that was already tyrannical as SCOTUS clearly shows in Roe v Wade if nowhere else) -- abortion is not the Salus of any Populi...
... but rather a 'Religon of Death' as Socialism has sometimes been called.
And changing the US Constitution from FDR Socialism to some weird alliance of the CCP and an Islamic State (a Heresy, mind you, and against the Salvation of the People,
Specifically, which of these are allowed morally and politically, effectively:
- non-collaboration and non-resistance
- non-collaboration with resistance
- 'protesting' individually or verbally
- mass line of protesting
- armed resistance ('rebellion')
Non-collaboration with evil that doesn't involve resistance to the magistrate -- is your clear duty
Non-collaboration *with* resistance violates even the duty owed a usurper and tyrant *HOWEVER* it is only seeming resistance if you can show the tyrant is violating the Law of God
... and in many cases this case can probably be made.
'protesting' individually or verbally - this is pure vanity. Non-collaboration, keeping a low profile, obeying the Law of God, yes
Grandstanding and 'street dialectic' with Marxist is never correct or ethical.
4. for a legitimate or non-legitimate government, what if any limit is their over its power to interfere with domestic affairs politically or economically?
All theories more or less agree here, even if they have different reasoning.
Even if you live in the godless, atheist, Christ-hating Soviet Union, you should still obey traffic laws.
This is an aspect of God's Economy (provision for the End of Man in the face of evil)
The Unworthy Steward is still a steward, and accountable to his Master nonetheless.
His life will be required at his hands for the evil he does.
Will Biden, Fauci, and Gates burn in Hell? I'll leave that to your imagination.