🧮 Renting vs. Owning: The Math

Home ownership continues to be the single most misunderstood topic in personal finance.

It’s the best investment available to regular Americans yet… 🧵
...there are still people out there advising against it under the misguided belief that renting plus investing the same money in the market is a smarter play.

It’s time to revisit the math…
The reason home ownership is such a great investment is *leverage*, which unfortunately is a concept most people don’t understand. I tried to explain leverage in a previous thread (below), but let’s face it—financial stuff is confusing for most people.

Just know that home ownership is unique in a few ways:

1⃣Unless you live in your parents’ basement you’ll have a monthly housing expense whether you rent or own.

2⃣The housing system is rigged in your favor. You have access to cheap debt, tax advantages, and more.
3⃣Historically homes have been one of the safest & most predictable investments, through multiple recessions and even a cataclysmic financial crisis (see the other thread I linked to above for data on this).
Last thing before we dive into the math:

There are exceptions to every rule, but those exceptions don’t disprove the rule. Home ownership may not make sense if...

❌You’re not planning to stay in the home at least 5 years and ideally 10
❌You live in an area that is not growing OR you live in a unique market like NYC

❌You don't qualify for a mortgage

Now let’s do a side-by-side comparison of renting vs. owing as an investment...
The first thing to understand is that whether you rent or own (via a mortgage) you’re making a monthly payment.

When you rent you’re paying the owner’s mortgage, taxes, and maintenance. Remember, for an owner the whole point of renting their place is to make a profit!
So a monthly rent payment will almost always be higher than the cost to own the same place. But for sake of this analysis, let’s assume the monthly cost of renting & owning are the same.
The point here is that your monthly housing expense is a wash and whether you rent or own you can’t invest those dollars elsewhere. It doesn't factor into the investment math.

Surprisingly some people struggle with this basic assumption & think owners rent at a loss 🤷‍♂️
While there are examples of this, they are the exception not the rule. If you’re not with me on this you should stop reading this thread because I can’t help you.
If you’re OK with this assumption then it simplifies the comparison:

Put a chunk of 💵 into a down payment on a 🏠

vs.

Putting that same money into the market.

To make it tangible, we’ll look at:

$10k invested as a downpayment on a 🏠

vs.

$10k invested in the market
Which of these generates the greatest return? Well, here’s the punchline 📈👇

These numbers may seem 👁-popping, but it demonstrates the power of leverage in a system that is set up to help you succeed.

Let’s talk about the assumptions in this model. It assumes...
📈A 10% market return (on the upper end of the historical S&P average)
🏠2% annual home appreciation (below the historical average, esp for growth areas)
🏦A 30 year fixed mortgage at 3.5%
🤏I’ve ignored a few small factors that don’t affect the numbers in a meaningful way
Here’s the Google Sheet if you want to check my math, play with the assumptions, or add more details.

Use this to decide for yourself but the comparison isn’t even close.

A skeptic could make a couple of arguments here...

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d…
1⃣That you could also lever your investment in the market. This is a horrible idea—non-pro investors should only use leverage on hard assets that are highly unlikely to depreciate. You won't find a better risk-adjusted investment than your own home.
2⃣You could find a cheap place to rent and invest the savings. This is a valid strategy but now it’s not an 🍎-to-🍎 comparison. Whether or not this makes sense would depend on the specifics.
I won't even get into the advanced tactics available to homeowners such as harvesting home equity & deploying to the market as arbitrage. I also didn't factor in tax advantages or the huge psychological benefit of a "forced savings" vehicle.

📚Case closed.
PS. It's worth noting that even if you assume 0% appreciation for the home it's still a better investment because an ever-growing chunk of your monthly housing expense goes toward YOUR equity instead of your landlord's.

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with Kevin Dahlstrom

Kevin Dahlstrom Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @Camp4

30 Aug
This is wrong to the point of being irresponsible.

A 5% down home (US avg is 6%) is levered 20-to-1 so a 1% annual appreciation (far lower than historical average) is a 20% annual return.

Mortgage pmt is a wash bc you’d otherwise make a (higher) rent pmt.

👇🧵
There is simply no better risk-adjusted investment available to regular folks. The only exceptions are if you don’t plan to stay 5+ years or live in a dying city.

Here’s a more detailed thread:
(Also, a home is no different than any other RE investment except cheaper leverage is available. So in effect that tweet is saying RE is a bad investment 🤣. Again, your home is unique in that it’s a payment you’d have to make anyway. Why pay someone else’s mortgage + profit?)
Read 4 tweets
26 Jul
Lots of new followers! 👋 Hello.

Just so you know who you’re following…

📍 Boulder + Honolulu
👨‍👩‍👧‍👧 Married 24 yrs + 👧👧
🧗‍♀️ Kinda obsessed with rock climbing
🏦 Fintech when fintech wasn’t cool
📈Starting a newco (🤫)
💬 I answer all DMs

I’ve run hard & learned some things…👇
…mostly the hard way.

@evanmr recently asked me, ”What is the theme of your posts?”

My answer:

Using money to live a great life (plus climbing pics 😜).

👉My mission is to help others build true wealth (more than just 💵).

Here are the 5 tweets I’m most proud of:
1️⃣

My most popular thread, summing up what I’ve learned from 50 years on 🌎
Read 7 tweets
25 Jul
🧵Minimalism: A Personal Story

Hear me out & this 🧵 might improve your life by 10%.

Years ago I had a big financial win. To celebrate, I bought a brand new Porsche 911 Turbo convertible—the car I had dreamed about as a teen (pic below is the actual 🚙).

It was beautiful but…
…that night I couldn’t sleep. The thing that had embodied winning for 13-year-old Kevin wasn’t bringing 40-year-old Kevin the joy I expected.

In fact, it was stressing me out.

It wasn’t financial stress—the car wasn’t a stretch—it was more of a feeling that…
…the car was taking up space in my life, crowding out things that I cared about more.

The next morning I took the Porsche back to the dealer and told the manager, “amazing car, but not for me.” To the manager’s credit, he shook my hand and said, “Good for you.”
Read 11 tweets
23 Jul
🧵 Don’t ask, do.

@JerrySeinfeld was once asked to speak to students of a comedy class.

His message: “The fact that you have even signed up for this class is a very bad sign.”

Ouch.

Similarly, @elonmusk was asked how to start a company.

His response was equally blunt... 👇 Image
“If you have to ask, it’s not for you.”

Again, ouch.

The point Seinfeld & Musk were making isn’t that we can’t learn from the best, it’s that the best have a *strong bias toward action*.

They dive in without all the answers.

Because guess what? *Nobody* has all the answers.
You hear it all the time from successful people:

“When I started I had no idea what I was doing.”

Or, “If I’d have known what I was getting into, I never would have started.”

When you’re attempting something hard, ignorance is often bliss.
Read 6 tweets
19 Jul
📈 How to get rich with a 9-to-5
(2 big secrets of compounding)

Hear me out & this 🧵 may change the way you think about money. And at the end there's a way to get access to killer investments.

👇
There’s a lot of talk about compounding on this site. Most people understand the basic concept—small gains become exponential over time—but few really understand the math behind compounding.

Let's make compounding simple so you can build wealth like the smartest investors ⬇️
The first thing you need to know is that compounding is highly sensitive to the *return rate*, which is simply how fast your investment grows each year. For example, the average annual return of the S&P 500 index since 1957 is about 8%.
Read 21 tweets
18 Jul
🧵 A competent CEO could 10X $twtr in 2-3 years.

Here are 3 obvious moves to get there:

👇
1⃣Quick Hit: Stop building dumb me-too features like fleets, spaces,& super follows and instead monetize the millions of users who get huge value from the platform by providing *tools they need*.

Specifically, launch a paid "pro" account that includes...
...an edit button, better authoring tool (the current one is awful), better search & analytics, enhanced profile page & other simple features.

The price is...

$5/mo for < 5k followers
$20/mo for > 5k followers (comes with ☑️ verification)
$50-1000/mo for > 100k++ followers
Read 13 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Too expensive? Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal Become our Patreon

Thank you for your support!

Follow Us on Twitter!

:(