Fantastic talk by @kristian_tylen and colleagues from @AarhusUni @interact_minds (& @Nicolas_Fay)
showing how to combine archaeology, cognitive science and semiotics to study the possible symbolic function of South African cave engravings over several millenia.
Engravings in these areas seem to evolve into more structured forms over time, perhaps signalling gradual refinement of symbolic tools. But the function of these potential symbolic tools is not very clear.
Some think they could just be for aesthetic effect (non-semantic), regard them as cultural/traditional stylistic elements (to actively mark group identity), or perhaps they are early signs of full-blown denotational symbolic and semantic signs, pointing to individual meanings
It's quite difficult draw inferences from symbolic forms to their actual pragmatic use. Tylén et al therefore identify mediating layers, like their structural composition and the cognitive affordances of these signs and how the engage the perceiver
If we change the symbolic form, it should affect the extent to which they support cognitive processes, which then enable specific pragmatic uses, which in turn should lead to refinement of these symbolic tools to better fulfill their symbolic function
In their recent PNAS study they therefore used these engraving patterns as stimuli in tasks and found that they indeed became more salient, easier to remember, recognize, and reproduce, but no support for a semantic symbolic function
In ongoing work they are looking into whether cultural transmission processes can lead to the developments oserved in the engravings and whether the same stages in their evolution can be found in the lab as in the wild
Preliminary results show that simple patterns can become more complex and structured over generations (higher entropy, more lines intersecting)
To address the relative saliency at each stage they used a whole suite of cognitive and perceptual experiments to see if they gained salience, intentionality, memorability, style and discriminability
Indeed the signs became more salient, easy to identify, memoralizble and reproducible. But in this minimal manipulation clearly recognizable differences between transmission chains did not emerge. In contrast to the original study
In sum, the engravings were likely aesthetic and perhaps group identifiers that gradually became refined for that function. Using transmission chains also showed that this could result from a cultural process of iterated learning. See also original paper: pnas.org/content/117/9/…

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In yet another talk @kristian_tylen presents work with and @cordulavesper on the cultural route to the conceptualisation of space #Protolang7
Concepts have traditionally been thought of as either transcendental, biological, or grounded in social interaction. The latter refers for instance, how languages make conceptual distinctions, e.g. with regard to spatial relations
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An important distinction we need to make is whether we are talking about grammar or simple signal variation, and what 'simple' or 'complex' actually refers too. The mirror pattern we see might relate directly to how we distinguish these concepts.
In animal communication research, the social complexity hypothesis contrasts on the surface quite directly with the linguistic nich hypothesis by @glupyan et al, suggesting a seemingly disciplinary conflict
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@YaaminMoot et al from @UoE_CLE show work on regularisation, naturalness, and systematicity in silent gesture experiments. They start with the question of we get from item-based preling communication to a system via several processes #Protolang7
One way to test this is using possible biases in word order. E.g. naturalness: specific orders preferred for specific meanings, or regularity: same WO used for a specific meaning, or systematicity: same WO across all meanings. We also know that WO can be conditioned on semantics
this is strong natural preference found in silent gestures. But what about spoken languages? It seems much less natural there, but there is some evidence for sign languages (NSL). So is naturalness limited to improvisation? Is it replaced by systematic structure through learning?
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Greg Mills asks how people coordinate when they interact with each other.
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Usually we use reference games to study how conventions emerge to enable this. Which usually leads to patterns and the emergence of conventions lik enew referring expressions (or signs in experimental semiotics)
BUT there are more fundamental coordination problems in dialogue that are actually very different from referential problems. He shows clips of people coordinating on a street quite seemlessly and messed up high fives or tennis doubles, where coordination fails.
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Magdalena Schwarz, @thematzing & Niki Ritt ask why do we trust others? Between kin it makes sense, but what how is trust maintained in non-kin within cooperative groups? Or even with strangers?
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Hypotheses on this involve social bonds, reputatio, gossip and 3rd party punishment that all help maintain trust. But what about strangers?
For strangers, symbolic tags can help identify whether they are trustworthy (e.g., wearing same clothes as ones own group). But free-riders could easily imitate this tag. Speech, or more specifically accent might be a more reliabl marker that is very hard to fake (Cohen 2012)
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Cool talk by @greg_woodin (w/ @MarcusPerlman @BodoWinter) colleagues on the connections between metaphor, gesture, iconicity & mental sensorimotor simulations #Protolang
Iconicity, e.g. in the form of sound symbolism is pervasive in the lexicon. Iconicity can also help ground symbols via sensorimotor simulation (e.g., representing what it means for something to be a 'tree'). We also find interactions of word processing with specific brain areas
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