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@MoreeSpinne @sanchak74 Youd better read your article again and take into account all the reasons is stated that it's highly questionable AND especially since: ITS ABOUT DELTA VARIANT and the timing of what's what is INDISTINGUISHABLE

1) ITS A PREPRINT meaning no ITS NOT UNDERGONE PEER
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@MoreeSpinne @sanchak74 REVIEW, VERIFICATION OF METHODOLOGY, USE OF APPROPRIATE STATS, PARTICIPANTS THAT REPRESENT A GENERALIZABLE EFFECT OR EVEN AN ACCURATE ONE & VERIFIABLE CONCLUSIONS GIVEN TRANSPARENCY OF DATA

READ WHAT IT SAYS "We also urge journalists and other individuals who report on
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@MoreeSpinne @sanchak74 medical research to the general public to consider this when discussing work that appears on medRxiv preprints and emphasize it has yet to be evaluated by the medical community and the information presented may be erroneous"

Translation since you don't get it

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@MoreeSpinne @sanchak74 2)vaccine naive= hasn't had ANY COVID VAXX but may or MAY NOT have had COVID19

3) SARS-CoV-2-(COVID 19) naive = hasn't been infected w/COVID19 or DELTA or MU VARIANTS
Without vaxx THEYRE STILL VULNERABLE & REMAIN VULNERABLE TO SARS-CoV-2-(COVID 19) & DELTA & MU VARIANTS
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@MoreeSpinne @sanchak74 because all 3 are floating around. & Not only are you vulerable to all 3 you can spread any one like wildfire

4) THOSE vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2-(COVID 19) REMAIN VULNERABLE TO DELTA & MU VARIANTS BUT ARE NOT AS VULNERABLE TO SARS-CoV-2-(COVID 19) AND NOT LIKELY HAVE A
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@MoreeSpinne @sanchak74 SEVERE CASE IF BREAKTHROUGH INFECTION OCCURS RE HOSPITALIZATION & REINFECTION RATE IS LOW LOW LOW

5) Those who've HAD SARS-CoV-2-(COVID 19) & not been vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2-(COVID 19) remain less vulnerable TO SARS-CoV-2-(COVID 19) reinfection but just as
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@MoreeSpinne @sanchak74 vulnerable to DELTA & MU variants PLUS....DEPENDING ON WHEN YOU HAD SARS-CoV-2-(COVID 19) vulnerable to reinfection when antibodies wain below certain levels.

WHATS KNOWN NATURAL IMMUNITY JUST LIKE VAXX IMMUNITY IS NOT A PERMANENT STATE

6) THOSE WHO'VE BOTH HAD SARS-CoV-2-
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@MoreeSpinne @sanchak74 (COVID 19) AND BEEN VACCINATED HAVE MUCH LOWER RATES OF SEVERE INFECTION VIA DELTA OR MU (see last sentence in study below)

5)Those who've had SARS-CoV-2-(COVID 19) BEFORE JanFeb2021 (let's see that means the antibodies developed by someone like me; who had COVID 19 May 2020
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@MoreeSpinne @sanchak74 HAVE WAINED (and did) by September 2020 and so getting vaccinated in May 2021 WAS PROTECTIVE BUT ONLY AGAINST REINFECTION FROM SARS-CoV-2-(COVID 19)
And because I've trace immunity plus SARS-CoV-2-(COVID 19) vaccine I'm less likely to become SEVERLY ILL WITH DELTA or MU
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@MoreeSpinne @sanchak74 SHOULD I CONTRACT IT.

6) Boosters for Delta & MU will be imperative and more because SARS-CoV-2-(COVID 19) like all virus's MORPHS and the more it rages through a population the more it MORPHS into immune & vaccine resistant strains and develops resistance to host antibodies
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@MoreeSpinne @sanchak74 developed during original strain viral inflections

7)WE STILL DONT KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS NOVEL (meaning NEVER BEFORE SEEN) virus so info will constantly be updated.

8) The study was done between March & June 2021 so of course those who had just been
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@MoreeSpinne @sanchak74 infected & recovered from COVID19 STILL HAD ANTIBODIES that's an idiot conclusion at this point

9) aside from the fact that they used binary logistical model not linear the study DID NOT use antibody levels as a variable (used binary variables re: treatment & outcome)

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@MoreeSpinne @sanchak74 & while tables 2a & 2b do exist, they DO NOT contain any of the statistics or figures that explains sh!t.
Further, quoting the study '46,035 persons in each of the groups" the fraction of a percent who died or the few percent who have long covid who were too sick to
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@MoreeSpinne @sanchak74 participate in a study could invert the study if not accounted for since they've been weeded out of the cohort. As a result of that absent data or statistical accounting for such, the studies findings could be 100 PERCENT WRONG IF THE 20 PERCENT WHO HAVE LONG HAUL COVID
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@MoreeSpinne @sanchak74 DIDN'T PARTICIPATE. MOREOVER THERE'S NO INDICATION THEY DID. IF THEY HAD, THE STUDY WOULD HAVE SAID SO

9) Lastly it's very difficult to tell what variant infected those who were sick prior to February 2021. We know Pfizer vaccine was made early in 2020, not using the
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@MoreeSpinne @sanchak74 delta variant. There is now questioning that the efficacy of J&J vaccine may have been lower because the delta variant was already present during the trials. Further recent Kentucky study still shows that natural immunity DID NOT protect as well as the previously sick who

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@MoreeSpinne @sanchak74 were then vaccinated

10) RESULTS CUT AND PASTED BELOW I suggest you take some comprehension classes

Results SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously
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@MoreeSpinne @sanchak74 infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. (DING DING DING SEE LIMITATIONS BY DATES)

The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well. When allowing the infection to occur at any
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@MoreeSpinne @sanchak74 time before vaccination (from March 2020 to
February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naïve vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21)

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@MoreeSpinne @sanchak74 increased risk for symptomatic disease. SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected.

Conclusions This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and
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@MoreeSpinne @sanchak74 stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease & hospitalization caused by t/Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to t/BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. (MEANING THOSE VAXXED WITHOUT HAVING HAD COVID 19) so makes sense but keep reading for t/kicker!!!!)
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@MoreeSpinne @sanchak74 LAST SENTENCE IS GERMANE: Individuals who were b/previously infected w/SARS-CoV-2 & given a single dose of t/vaccine gained additional protection against t/Delta variant.

Since you need a translator I'm not even reading your other articles.

Take comprehension classes

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