Podcast interview between safeguarding lawyers and trans rights and surrogacy lawyers @Farrer_Co

farrer.co.uk/news-and-insig…

Safeguarding lawyers ask about "gender questioning children"

Trans rights lawyers respond about "trans children" 🤨
Robin White talks darkly about orgs that are "not supportive of trans children" raising safeguarding issues & other children's privacy

Says other children just have to get used to there being children in school using opposite sex facilities (but may be some balancing issues)
Dr. Bianca Jackson says that innocuous questions about what sex you are can be transphobic harassment.

Both talk about parents as "supportive" (i.e. gender affirming) or "unsupportive"
Robin says in the school premises regulations about toilets, changing and showers "there is no definition of boy or girl, no definition of sex "

Does it include trans boys and trans girls?
"the regulation are silent about that" .. "why shouldn't they be allowed ?"
At 26 mins Robin describes an "impossible situation" of a female child who has short hair, wears shorts, "presents male" - and told to use the girls facilities

"imagine the effect of a natal girl who has this apparent boy walking into the girls toilets"
This both (1) recognises that girls do feel uncomfortable with actual boys (whatever their hair length and clothing in the girls) in female only space and

(2) is just utterly regressive. 🙄🙄🙄
I agree with Robin that the EHRC should produce clear guidance to schools on how to protect everyone's rights.

But in the meantime there is DFE guidance (not mentioned) which the says provide alternative changing provision if needed
gov.uk/government/pub…
The idea that schools should keep a child's sex secret from other children and staff is incompatible with safeguarding and consent.

Girls should not be being pressurised or tricked into to undressing with male students and vice-versa.

I wish this had been explored more.
Guests on the podcast say beware of guidance produced by lobby groups then go on to recommend guidance by Stonewall, Gendered Intelligence and Mermaids!
Robin spoke darkly of "other guidance" ....

She may have been thinking of the this from Sex Matters and Transgender Trend!

sex-matters.org/wp-content/upl…

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