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16 Sep, 46 tweets, 18 min read
1. The #EpikFail show that Michael Trollan is the person that runs Andy Ngo's website. I'm going to dump a lot of info on Michael here for other researchers and journalists. It won't be a nice, clean, flowing thread but it will be fun.
2. First, check out the mini thread from the amazing @KarmaOneSixOne, who found his ass.

3. Facebook
4. LinkedIn
5. His web consulting business.

archive.is/YLIQi
6. Chairman of Atheists for Liberty. 🔥

James Lindsay, Peter Boghossian, and Melissa Chen are advisors.

archive.is/On9W1
7. He was also with Peter and Melissa in forming the National Progress Alliance.

archive.is/e3fAa
8. Peter has tried to portray his relationship with Andy Ngo as tangential, but Andy's site was registered less than a year ago and Peter is the clearest link between Andy and Michael.
9. Aethists for Trump. Pretty juicy freeze peach lingo here. Will Michael appreciate my freeze peach? Fucking doubt it.

archive.is/eTlbj
10. He was at CPAC 2020 passing out "Heathen Patriot" buttons, which probably paired well with Trumpy Bear.

archive.is/IzF75
11. In April it appears "Atheists for Libery was a main sponsor of the Mythinformed Better Discourse.

12. Speakers included:

Jack Posobiec
Libby Emmons
Rogan O’Handley
Will Chamberlin
lijah Schaffer
Melissa Chen

and Niko fucking House.

archive.is/tYxr8
13. Michael is on the Advisory Board for Ideas Beyond Borders, which is a Melissa Chen run org.

archive.is/69QMk
14. Please see this fantastic thread from Z3dster where Trollan shows up. It was impossible to know that he ran Andy Ngo's website then, because Z3dster would have caught it.

15. There might be something of interest in his Github.

github.com/michaeltrollan…
16. He's also an investor in shit social media startup Minds and Pim Tool's Subverse.

archive.is/cdhQK
17. Michael Trollan is a Director for the Secular Coalition.

archive.is/xOqg8
18. Michael Trollan got into activism in 2013 with the Atheist movement. Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, and Christopher Hitchens are cited as heavy influences.

19. In 2016 he moved from being an activist for atheism to freeze peach, like a lot of atheists did. That appears to be the mid-point between atheism and "anti-antifa".

When he finds a cause it's clear he dives in head first.
20. He founded Secular Action in 2013 and it's been left to rot since 2017.
21. Melissa Chen and Thomas Sheedy chillin and grillin with Andy Ngo.

It's like a little fascist network node. All furthering each other's bullshit with money and influence.

22. More from the video:

One of the interviewers seems like a barely closeted identitarian. Michael pushes back on some things. He does geniunely not bigoted toward immutable characteristics in people

I'm trying to be fair, which is more than what Ngo would do.
23. Andy Ngo is a fascist propagandist who spends a lot of time demonizing African-Americans, Muslims, and Trans people in addition to anyone left of center.

Either Michael is doing a lot of rationalizing or he has moved much further right since that video interview.
24. It's clear by the racist anti-Asian spree killing that the worm had turned.

25. Remember how I said Michael invested in Tim Pool's Subverse? Welp, Rocco brought the document for your viewing pleasure. 🔥

26. @michaeltrollan locked his Twitter account in the last week, but I'm going to post highlights of the hundreds of his tweets that are archived. I'm sure more enlightening patterns will emerge.

Thanks again to Rocco!

27. I've been informed that Michael Trollan is no longer a Director with @seculardotorg and that his tenure ended in late 2019. A web page that wasn't up to date is the reason he was still showing as being with the org.
28. Yes, Michael Trollan said he got into the IDW early on, influenced by Weinstein, Rubin, and others.

As I go through his archived tweets I anticipate seeing a lot of IDW bullshit.

29. Michael Trollan appears to be a free speech absolutist. What about speech that incites hate against those immutable characteristics he thinks people shouldn't be judged on? Andy Ngo's words get people death threats, yet Michael runs his site.

30. I'm again unsure how Michael Trollan squares this with Ngo's constant lies, omissions of context to change the story, and how Ngo seems wholly unbothered by his disingenuous behavior getting people death threats. Michael enables this.

31. What he says here is literally the opposite of what Andy Ngo does on the site that MICHAEL l RUNS! He enables the exact thing he hates.

32. Just one example of the Ngo creative editing to reverse victim and offender. There are so many, but this is a great example:

33. So far I've seen dozens of examples of him defending the bigotry of others. There are too many examples and many you can't get a feel for without seeing 3+ screenshots, so I haven't posted them. If I find a good concise one I will. Massaging the connotation describes it.
34. This is a good example of the mealy-mouthed word parsing to defend racism.

35. Michael says only "woke" men are upset with Lawrence Fox. What did Lawrence do? He said that the film 1917 was racist and "forced diversity" for inserting a turbaned Sikh into the WW1 trenches.

Lawrence was just "saying what everyone was thinking" according to Michael.
36. It's not racism against whites or forced diversity to have a Sikh soldier in 1917. It's history.

Here's a rebuttal from a Sikh MP:

mirror.co.uk/news/politics/…
37. Michael and Peter don't care that Joe says bigoted things or that he platforms bigots and propagandists like their guy Andy Ngo. Their problem is CNN for reporting the story?

38. Context is important and he's right. The problem is his runs the website for a propagandist that famously strips context to create narrative.

Again, how does he square this circle?
39. Tom Woods and Lew Rockwell are well known racists. Full stop. I don't know the other names well.

40. Just two weeks into the George Floyd protests:

41. I wish the guy running Andy Ngo's website would give some thought to all the people who got death threats because of Andy Ngo.

42. Going through these archives, which happen to be in chronological order, patterns have emerged. With his account locked it's impossible to tell if these patterns are indicative of all his tweets or just the more extreme end.
43. Some time in 2019 his posts became more focused on race, but they aren't overtly racist. None individually are terrible compared to the types of people I research.

They're a mix of counterpointing someone claiming racism, white male victimization, anti-wokeness, etc.
44. So far I've seen several dozen posts that follow the themes below. Any discussion of race by someone who isn't a white guy, tended to illicit these types of responses from Michael.
45. Ngo comment

46. 10 archives later he's still arguing with people over Andy. Andrew asks a great question at the bottom.

January 6th, 2021 we saw the results of Michael's attitude.

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