So this is another INSANE interview that happened a few days ago. With Mr Tak Hyun min the house secretary again. This interview focuses on the really insane impact of BTS being appointed as presidential envoys, everything the media was supposed to report on but DID NOT+
And yes ladies and gentlemen we got confirmation that the media did not report and did their best to destroy instead. With host Kim Ou Joon who's interviewed Mr Kim Young Dae before for those of you who dont remember. I'm gonna try to translate as much as I can +
But expect lost of paraphrasing and summarizing like the other thread. Here's the video the BTS comvo starts at 49:30 mark. +
The host Mr Kim starts by introducing Mr Tak the house secretary and they say their hellos and Mr Kim starts by saying: " the story that Secretary Tak is even here, it seems is not known by the media" to which Mr Tak replies: "It's seems like this is a recurring theme or+
Routine."
Host Kim says: " BTS performance at the UN is a huge news but there's been almost no reports of it in the media" Mr Tak says: " We've really been doing our best-"
Host Kim: " It was a huge topic/ big deal all over the world but it was the least talked about in +
Korea"
Mr Tak says: "that can't be...starting from ABC News, NBC to CBS in the US this was continously reported on a big scale"
To which Mr Kim replies: "Over there it was a big deal....because the fact that BTS performed at the UN, The fact that an artist/singer +
Addressed the general assembly and performed this way in the UN building is a first". Mr Tak: "Exactly... such a news, not being reported over here..."
Host Kim: " They didn't report on the true meaning of such a feat."
Mr Tak: "It can't be"
The host laughs at the ridiculousness+
The host asks: "isn't BTS the first artist/singer to perform like this at the UN General assembly?"
Mr Tak replies: "During the general assembly meeting at the UN, the amount of people who can attend is very strictly limited, especially now that we are in the middle of +
A pandemic, it's even more strictly monitored in terms of who receives an invitation and the venue as well is strictly controlled, despite this, during the UN General assembly, having the main UN chair room (could be conference room), and the front yard/the front of the building+
And the complete UN space/building, granted to a specific artist/singer so they can film/shoot their performance, is a first in the entire UN General assembly history."
Host Kim asks: " How was that decision made/how did happen like that?"
Mr Tak: "Initially, this started since+
Last winter, this was discussed with with BTS's label. Originally this wasn't something we had prepared for the UN General assembly, this was supposed to be part of a program to introduce Korean culture to the world that was supposed to be matched up to the +
President's greeting tours".
Host Kim: " Ah so at first it had nothing to do with the UN..."
Mr Tak: "The presidential greeting tour, was something we'd done 5 years ago (or since 5 years) and we could see not only a diplomatic effect but also a cultural effect..so we thought+
Of turning it into an opportunity to really share and spread our culture. So we'd been working on such a project since last winter."
Mr tak continues: " Even the name of the project was the " Kim Gu project". (For those of you who dont know who Kim gu was and how important+
He is of a figure in Korean culture and history. KIM GU was not only an author (pen name: Baekbeom), was one of the leaders in the Korean independence movement against Japan, he was very for reunification between North and South korea and was also a president at one point+
And RM cited him in a speech back in 2019 I think. Also this video below goes into detail about the relationship between Kim GU and the MMA performance in 2018 of idol as well. Check it out if you want more context:
) +
Back to the program.
Mr Tak: "because of the pandemic, this was not possible, even with the UN assembly we all thought it was gonna happen remotely, so we thought this time too we wouldn't be able to do it, but then we got a call from the UN...
Host Kim: " So the UN called +
First?"
Mr Tak: "Yes.. saying that two events were being done in person. One event is the general assembly greeting that all the leaders participate in and the other was the SDG moment event, the meeting of the council where they discuss sustainable development goals +
The thing is the meeting itself is a speech session of world leaders so there wouldn't be anything for the special envoy to do there..."
Host Kim: " Right...only the president would participate.."
Secretary Tak: Yes..so the SDG moment is something that aimed to +
Or was made to adjust and broaden the understanding of young people about current world challenges starting from the global climate change problem and explain/present to the eyes of the younger generation....so that was the perfect spot to put them."
Host: right! +
Mr Tak: "More than our demands or the UN's demands, the most important thing at this point was BTS schedule (whether they would be able to fit us in)"
The host bust out laughing: "that right! BTS schedule is more harder to secure"
Mr Tak: " It may be hard understand but+
But this was an obvious problem that we needed to get resolved". (basically this could've messed everything up if their schedule didn't allow for it)
Mr Tak: "this is something that both the Korean government or the UN could not overcome."
Host Kim (still cracking up): +
"Something that neither the UN nor the Blue House, could help...Does it work with BTS schedule?"
Mr Tak: " So this was a project that was taken on after checking BTS schedule."
Host Kim: "So this was something that the UN wanted ?"
Mr Tak: " this would be undoable+
Without the UN wanting it..because more than you think, the UN is tired to keep everything as fair and even as possible with as little and almost machine like enforcement of equity. Which tries hard to keep it equal for everyone from small countries in Africa to the US."+
The host (talking in perspective of what other countries could say): " why are you only letting singers/artists from that country perfom?, you could definitely hear that type of statement"
Mr Tak: "of course, people could say that, and the UN really worried over that point but+
Nevertheless knowing the power and influence that they(BTS) possess and with the expectation that (because of that influence and power) the SDG moment would be able to be seen from all over the world...that's what they counted on."
Host Kim: So even from the UN's perspective+
There's no one (better) but BTS."
Mr Tak: "in addition to that we must not neglect the important fact/aspect that the president of South Korea was selected as a representative of the world's top leaders to speak on their behalf."
Host kim: " Our president, gave a keynote+
Speech as a representative of the world's top leaders, and they basically ignored it (let it go) like this is something that's habitual/ ordinary. Plus, a Korean artist/singer, was selected as representative of the world's youth...this something unimaginable..."+
Mr Tak: "naturally, this should've been reported on a lot..."
Host Kim: " No, we don't know!...(Because they frame it as) "Ah BTS must've have performed again as usual"..." the president did something he'd always done"....
Mr Tak: Since the UN General assembly was created+
This was the VERY FIRST TIME that the President of South Korea has been chosen as a Keynote speaker representative of the whole world..."
Host Kim: "We have no idea (over here)"
Mr Tak: " Also having a Korean Artist as a representative and speaker for the world youth is +
Also a Fist time...and even had juju chang a korean-American journalist there as a (host?) so that day really became a "Korean day"
Host: "and we didn't choose her right?"
Mr Tak: " No...UN made that decision"
Host: " This is my first time hearing this meaning"+
Mr Tak: "Whats more, during the UN assembly, there were numerous presentations and sessions and speeches but amongst them all and more than any of them, the one that the most people watched and tuned in for was their (BTS) speech."
Host (laughing): "well that's because +
BTS was doing it/was the one talking"
Mr Tak: "Amongst all the historical events combined, this was the most watched..."
Host kim: "They (speaking of the media) didn't interpret/explain this "for the first time in our history, our president was a keynote speaker as a +
Representative of the world's leaders...For the first time, an artist/singer from our country spoke as Representative of the world's youth, and in the UN history for the first they even performed...they (the media) didn't explain the meaning of these things."+
Mr Tak: " The Beatles...Bono...historically there have been so many great and impressive artists all around the world...this opportunity that wasn't given to anyone, was given to BTS. Even After the speech was done, I was still a bit stunned (out of it)...although we +
Prepared (for the event), now that it was happening in front of me...our president gave his speech, introduced BTS, BTS gave their speech as representative of youth, and at the UN assembly our language (korean) kept coming out (being spoken), even after all that I kept asking +
Myself If this was reality...I kept misunderstanding...when the BTS members came down after their speech I told them I couldn't believe this and they too said they were questioning whether this was real...it was truly a thrilling experience."
Mr Tak: " This was so surreal+
Having our president as a world leader representative and our artist as a representative of youth...we just never thought this would happen even as we were getting ready for it, it didn't feel real."
Host: "well in the media in our country, they might just have it as +
Oh they just gave a speech.. they just performed and leave it as that"
Mr Tak: " this can't be"
Host: "well it already happened like that"
Mr Tak: "Even after it was over, among the UN secretary General, and even the heads of government from other countries this was the+
Biggest topic...not only in the US but also in the media all over the world as well. We ended having interview with ABC, NBC, CBS, but there were so may requests but because of the schedule... of course there were really so many interview request for BTS but also +
We had many requests for interviews with our President... from the perspective of our diplomatic activities that we had so far, you could say we were the bosses this time... (laughs)
Host (laughs): bosses?!
Mr Tak: "We were able to have bilateral talks with the UK during +
The UN assembly and also with Slovenia...and do you know where we held the talks?"
The host said something I ddnt hear
Then Mr Tak said they held the talks at the Korean consulate.
Host: "so they came (to the consulate)"?
Mr Tak: "Yes...this is the first time I've +
Experienced this...and honestly speaking it was thrilling!"
Host laughs
Mr Tak: " Usually we would be the ones to go (to them), or to a created space specifically for the talks..."
Host: "since we were the ones who needed (them), so we would go looking for them or if both +
Parties needed each other then you would meet in some designated setting (place) but this time they came to you since you were so busy (with all them requests)" laughs
Mr Tak: I told them during the work meeting "We're very busy" (host laughs)..."if it's ok with you I we wish..+
For you to come to us..."
Host laughing: " and this was your first time doing this.."
Mr Tak: "I'd been wanting to say those words so much for the past 5 years...and this time I got to say them for the first time.."would you come to us instead...if you're busy then that's fine+
Basically repeating things that I'd heard them say to us"
Host: "and they came?"
Mr Tak: "They all came...I really think this may have been the strongest scene/image"
Host laughs: "this wasn't reported either..at all..not even a little."
Mr Tak: "after the speech, +
The UN themselves approached us wanting to set up a special interview with our President and BTS with the under secretary general herself becoming the interviewer and interviewing them.. setting it all up..."
Host laughs: the under secretary general?
Mr Tak: it was my first +
Time seeing this happen...what's more insane is that this event was supposed to have only..the UN chairperson, the secretary general, the special envoy (BTS) and President Moon, but in the day set we went there and low and behold q whole bunch of well known world leaders+
That I will not name, were just there. When asked why they were there...they replied they were just there." 😂😂😂 both the host and secretary Tak are cracking up
Host: "obviously they came to take pictures" 😂
Mr Tak: 😂" Normally, world leaders don't just go places +
For no reason." 😂😂
Mr Tak continues: " I've done many overseas diplomatic events like these over the years, but this was the first time that we attend so proudly, so comfortably doing everything the way we wanted...the picture painted itself the way we wanted and seeing it +
Becoming reality was the first time I felt that work was fun 😂"
Host laughs: "They come when I tell them to come, and write what I tell them to 😂"
Mr Tak: " Even with the time thing being able to say " we only have ten minutes to give you", this is something I'd never been +
Able to do before, we'd only hear these things (said to us)"
Host: " and why did they go to the MET?"
Mr Tak: " this year was the 30th year anniversary of Korea joining the UN, and there's a custom of giving a gift to the UN in commemoration, for example in the case of+
China they gave them a Bronze (don't now the word for it) piece of art, donating an exhibit or a piece of work to showcase one's own country's cultural achievements, then it gets placed/showcase somewhere at the UN assembly building....Originally we wanted to give a piece of art+
To the UN too but when we thought about it, it wasn't guaranteed that if we donated the art to the UN that it would be placed where we wanted it to be placed."
Host: right
Mr Tak: "because the dedicated space is so limited... and also according to our laws we can't +
Export original artifacts, art..those have to be kept in the country...but also we couldn't possibly send in fakes (artifacts or art).. so we thought about it and the MET, one of the top 3 museums in the world...
Host: " A Place with strong pride"
Mr Tak: "They have a +
Korean exhibit hall there..and to speak honestly compared other nations (exhibits) it's on the shabby side...however, using this opportunity if we donated something to them then people from all around the world would really be able to come and see it...
Host: ah so you changed +
Your direction towards the MET (instead of UN)."
Mr Tak: "Yes so we were thinking if we were going to donate art this time we give to the MET..and as if happens that the MET had a greater demand for Korean cultural and wee waiting for such a chance..."
host kim: ah so over +
There Hallyu exploded but the space was small..."
Mr Tak: "and over there they weren't asking for historical pieces but wanted modern pieces so we had no pressure or burden and were able to pick a modern art piece and go with The first lady and the special envoy (BTS)." +
And because of the fact that BTS and the first lady visited this became a noticeable thing... a lot of people were unaware that there was even a korean art museum...on top of that at first when we advised the MET that we had some art to donate to them they originally told us +
To wait our turn..."
Host laughs: they told you to wait your turn? 😂
Mr Tak: "Because have so much and because they receive so many expensive art pieces as well... so we told them we didn't have lots of time...and they said we'll if you dont have the time you can just do it next time.."
Host: "at first right?"
Mr Tak: " Yes.. so we said +
If that's the case we can't help it, our special envoys (BTS) and the first lady were planning to go (to the MET for the donation event), I guess we'll look into another museum.." 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yall the host is dying
Mr Tak: "before we even finished saying this...every +
Problem was resolved". 😂😂 (basically the moment they name dropped BTS all the doors were open, and the MET was bending over backwards for them).
The host is cracking up still.
Mr Tak: " didn't yall say you were too busy" 😂 (the pettiness)
Host: so the top flipped (meaning+
The person who had the advantage flipped).
Mr Tak: the story totally changed, at first they wanted to do a brief event but then they gave up their knob Garden and even opened the Metropolitan storage for the first lady and BTS to see as special consideration."
Host: wow so+
They gave that special tour"
Mr Tak: "They only made one request...saying "we're very thankful that you are coming but if possible we would like to do this when the spectators are done spectating (so basically at a time when there's no visits I assume). 😂😂 and we accepted +
That request".
Host: "The MET did good business (made a good deal)"
Mr Tak continued to talk about the president meeting different vaccine company CEOs and this time they were able to meet Pfizer CEO, and he explained that it was the first time that everything +
Went so smoothly because they always had to accommodate everyone and things going there way like that is a rare occurrence but then this time there was not a single thing that went wrong.
And then they moved on to another Topic. END of Translation
PS: This is a long ass thread and I didn't have the strength to continue even though the topic after that was heartwarming and historical too (it had nothing to do with the boys so I stopped there). This probably is full of innacuracies but I tried my best, I hope+
This gets translated correctly soon. Moral if the story is: The korean media completely disregarded the whole UN event and its real meaning and impact. BTS are basically national treasures for Korean diplomacy and culture and the UN event and presidential diplomatic tours+
Cemented them as a POWERFUL and influential social and diplomatic entity because people actually listen when they talk and became ARMY is so big and powerful. In conclusion, be prepared for more backlash and please be aware of what this entails for them and for us. #ARMYREALTALK
Here is Bora's translation of it. It's more succinct and organized. And it seems like they will have subtitles soon as well for the video using those translations.
#ARMYREALTALK
it's been a while since I've done one of these and im gonna try to keep it short but I feel like I need to put to some things in perspective for some of you: 1) those who seem confused as to why BTS UN participation turned into a controversy by the media, +
2) wondering if it can truly be said that the boys are in control of what they do and that not even the govt can make them bend
3) To again make yall understand that we (BTS and ARMY) truly only have each other and are surrounded by enemies on all sides. +
4) finally some suggestions on how to cope and not lose yall minds in this tornado.
The first part of this Real talk focuses on something I've been saying for a while but that's even more relevant now because the SK elections are close.+
Yall this is ugly business... a whole lot was said in the video and the conversation about the boys start at 35:17 and it's about the new insane articles talking about the boys not getting paid for their diplomatic duty. The guest is the blue house's protocol secretary+
Yall would've seen it on the TL. She starts by saying "this is about the reports that came out yesterday saying that BTS wasn't paid by the blue house for their appearances and those reports caused "outrage" saying things like the boys are victims of "passion pay" but there was+
News also that there was a contract written for their appearances but that the boys were basically made to go to extra events that weren't on the contract. There's so much back and forth going on that we thought it would be best to get the answers directly from the house+
Imma address this now and be done with it. Let me tell yall a story about a group of boys who were raised in a homogeneous society, were barely taught anything about black culture aside from music and idolized a hip hop culture without truly understanding some of its aspects +
They were one day jamming to a song (a rap song) which had the n word in it a lot of times like multiple times and these boys who at the time were ignorant of the context and breadth of this word just sang along to the lyrics of this song not understanding that they should not+
Have. And they were on camera just jamming to the song. Well as expected people called them out, some more aggressively and harshly then others and people explained to them the connotations of the word and from then on these boys went on. Did their research and have learned and +
See if I start talking about the amount of misogynistic and delusional lyrics in the kpop world written by others and the kind of mess that these people be generally without receiving backlash or Apologizing we'd be here all day but they wanna go after someone+
Who's entire career has been about improving himself and those around him and who's always double checking himself making sure to not hurt others and is always trying to support and promote equality and progress and self development with everything he does and writes because +
He dared to actually take responsibility and own up to his mistakes? Isn't that what we want people to do? Learn and grow? Others given the opportunity don't even try but you wanna sh*t on someone who's making and effort and doing it correctly? I don't get it! Do people get+
For baby army or those who don't understand why we are so adamant about fansite pictures or fansite in general let me explain the logic to you. These fansites are dangerous for multiple reasons.
# 1) they jeopardize the boys safety! (BTS are beautiful souls but that doesn't +
Mean there arent people out there who mean them harm, sassengs are not mythical creatures, they are real people who get a fixation and that fixation can turn dangerous and even deadly sometimes. People are fickle in nature and these sites are quite adept at revealing+
Information they have no business revealing and that in itself is dangerous! Some of these websites goes to great length to obtain these pictures. I will leave it at that for now but think about the amount of death threats that these boys received that we know and do the math) +
#ARMYREALTEA today i am starting my segment on ARMY real tea. A derivation of #ARMYREALTALK because I feel like this is needed lately due to increased activity from idiots on the internet who enjoy trivializing ARMY concerns and BTS achievements but also for people+
Who seem not know what's really going on (clueless BTS fans, Baby ARMY, and outliers). On episode 1 of #ARMYREALTEA I will be addressing something that people may have heard of, witnessed but decided to ignore because its BTS, or because they don't really get the dynamics going +
On or because they think us fans are exaggerating and reading into everything and trying to victimize BTS for a variety of reasons. I wanna start by saying this, today. The entertainment industry in any country is not to be romanticized like people do. For people seem to +