Good morning everyone. Just reporting in ..... have been here since 9.30 a.m. but we are not starting until 11.30 a.m. Today should just be submissions on the law and from remarks made at the close yesterday it seems these will revolve around the issue of consent and whether ctd
a parent can give consent to treatment on behalf of a child.
We're back. Further discussions about the legal advice which the Chair will give to the other Panel members. Both parties' Counsel wish to comment on the draft legal advice which the Chair has already proffered to them. Back at 1.15 pm.
I've been wrong before about this but I really do think the hearing will finish today except for the delivery of the Judgment set to take place on 15th October.
Apparently the legal advice will be read out so those of us here will try and take a verbatim note.
Mr Stern QC and Mr Jackson QC have further addressed the Chairman in relation to the contents of his legal advice. The Chairman has now retired until 4 pm. He hopes to provide that advice after that.
The Chairman has given his legal advice. Again, I will have to draft a long thread about this. Chairman does not know how long it will take to reach a determination but I think unlikely anything will happen on 15th October after all. We will keep an eye on the website and advise.
I will post the closing submissions threads and the legal advice threads as soon as I can. In the meantime, thank you all for following this account with such commitment over these past months.
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This is a summary of the closing submissions made by Mr Simon Jackson QC on behalf of the General Medical Council. This is not a verbatim record and should not be taken as such. I will post a similar summary of the closing submissions of Mr Ian Stern QC on behalf of Dr Webberly.
I will then post my summarised note of the legal advice which the Chairman Mr Angus Macpherson has provided to his fellow Panel members. This advice was the subject of detailed discussions with both parties' Counsel.
HW accepted that the standard by which breach of duty was to be assessed was the standard of a reasonably competent General Practitioner with a special interest in gender dysphoria. HW held herself out as a Gender Specialist and as an expert. This was the basis upon which HW
Good morning. I will be tweeting today from Helen Webberley's Tribunal @RachelWilde13. Proceedings start at 9:30am
Clerk has just advised that when they read out the statement from Patient A they usually go 'at lightning speed'. If it becomes a problem to tweet that fast I may take notes and tweet later on.
They are in private session. Will start tweeting when the session is opened to the public.
And we're off. Some rebuttal evidence regarding travel arrangements in April 2017. Mr Gale, pharmacist, has provided a one page statement showing the procedure for login. IS is content for this evidence to be admitted. Waiting for Mr Singh to confirm arrival.
D55 and D56 are the documents - booking and google entries. IS - I have looked at Mr Stubbs statement. Awaiting Mr Stubbs statement to the Chair and tribunal.
Good morning. I will be tweeting today from Helen Webberley's Tribunal @RachelWilde13. Proceedings scheduled to start at 9am, but might be delayed until 9:30
2 new documents received from defendent - D58 and D59. Exhibits D30, T31, D45, D46, D57
We have Nigel Westwood (NW), Dr Walter Bouman (WB), Ryan Donoghue (RD), Angus Macpherson (AM), Ian Stern (IS), Simon Jackson (SJ), Sewa Singh (SS) clerk
Good morning from Manchester and Helen Webberley (HW)'s tribunal. @Jeeeez17 tweeting in blocks through the day which is expected to be cross examination of her defence witnesses by the GMC's QC Mr Jackson (SJ)
HW's QC is Ian Stern (IS) and P stands for [tribunal] panel
The first defence witness is due to be Dr Vickie Pasterski (VP) a psychologist and this afternoon we're expecting Dr. Daniel E. Shumer (DS) a pediatric endocrinologist in Northville, Michigan, USA. We're currently running slightly late for a planned 9.30am start
24th September resumed at 4:20pm to hear witness- Dr Schumer (DS).
Witness affirms he shall tell truth.
Chair - Afternoon and introductions. See how far we get, but we'll look forward to seeing you as early as possible on Monday afternoon Dr. Shumer.
IS points to DS's C.V. and asks for him to give us the highlights.
DS- N.W. Uni. Medical school Paediatrics- Vermont. Paediatric endocrinology at Boston. Harvard school of public health - Michigan.
DS cont...Child and adolescent gender clinic -we provide care for gender non-conforming children and adults.
IS- Clinical interests-sex specialists, research o gender dysphoria, various institutional positions what role do you play.. fellowship curriculum on pdtc endocrinology