I have to say that if Chinese scientists have been hiding evidence of a natural spillover #OriginOfCovid for months and months instead of immediately sharing such evidence to rule out a lab origin, I’m going to be quite irate.
ici.radio-canada.ca/recit-numeriqu…
“This lack of evidence is disturbing, especially in comparison with past pandemics. In the case of MERS, the intermediate host, the dromedary, was identified nine months after the onset of the pandemic.

Daniel Lucey: “As soon as we started looking, we found”.”
“In the case of the first SARS, finding this intermediate host was even faster: “In March 2003, we had confirmation that we were dealing with a coronavirus. And in May, we had already found many animal species carrying similar viruses in the markets of Guangdong”
In comparison, finding a proximal animal origin of SARS2 has been like…
The strangest part of the missing proximal origin has been scientists, even some young ones, going “do you remember how long it took us, one hundred years ago, to find the origin of viruses? We still haven’t found the source of viruses that emerged before any of us were alive.”

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17 Oct
Actually, I would use that 99 million dollars to FOIA the **** out of communications among scientists and journal editors outside of China. Image
Almost every major finding relating to the #OriginOfCovid has come from FOIA'ed or leaked documents, or extremely delayed scientific journal publications or data hidden in the scientific literature and online databases.
We've got the Mojiang mine medical thesis and China CDC director thesis pulled out of a Chinese thesis database by @TheSeeker268
Read 10 tweets
17 Oct
Starting ~27:30min mark, UK chief scientific advisor Patrick Vallance discusses the 1 Feb 2020 phone call with his US counterpart and leading experts, which he says produced the Proximal Origin @NatureMedicine correspondence by Andersen et al.
bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0…
He describes his role at this meeting as a bystander and says that’s why none of the emails can be shared- because they’re not his emails.

So the public cannot see the emails informing both US and UK scientific heads as well as the most influential #OriginOfCovid publication.
I also want to know that those emails are indeed as boring as some scientists have asserted. Let’s see them and we can all re-focus our energies on more productive venues of investigation. But for now, it looks like the scientists at that meeting don’t intend to be transparent.
Read 15 tweets
14 Oct
"a flawed argument for the lab leak idea can’t be taken as evidence against it"

I have the same stance for both natural & lab origins. No matter how many ridiculous arguments are made for either hypothesis, they are plausible & worthy of investigation.
bloomberg.com/opinion/articl…
Thank you @fayeflam for pointing out "the fact that the bats harboring the most closely related virus to SARS-CoV-2 live far from Wuhan, where the pandemic was first identified. And the Wuhan Institute of Virology houses the world’s biggest collection of bat coronaviruses."
"The Wuhan Institute of Virology hasn’t done enough to show it’s been operating safely, and that’s a reasonable argument in favor of continued probing into the possible lab origin of the virus. It’s important to keep the focus on that, and not on the uninformed speculation"
Read 4 tweets
9 Oct
"The difference between the early days of HIV science and today is the vertiginous firepower virologists now have due to phenomenal advances.. Genomes can be synthesized.. Virologists like me have been doing this since the 1980s with ever increasing ease."
dailymail.co.uk/debate/article…
"EcoHealth proposed surgically precise modifications that would push these viral chimeras even further down the road towards what must bluntly be called a coronavirus admirably suited to infecting humans.

And we can all agree that SARS-CoV-2 is a macabre success story."
"What we do not know – and badly need to know – is whether this proposal was submitted elsewhere, financed and performed.

Bear in mind the proposal was written in 2018, 18 months before the outbreak in Wuhan."
Read 5 tweets
9 Oct
One realization I had during the pandemic is that scientists tend to focus hard on innovating and pushing out new vaccines and therapeutics, without paying attention to why people around them do not trust these vaccines and therapeutics.
Even as a scientist, I grew increasingly ticked off by the lack of transparency and honesty from some of the scientists at the top of their fields.

I had to keep reminding myself that these are just a few scientists.

How much more distrust would I feel as a non-scientist?
The Feb 1 phone call + highly redacted emails


The FOIA'ed EcoHealth x WIV reports
theintercept.com/2021/09/09/cov…

The leaked Defuse EcoHealth x WIV proposal
theintercept.com/2021/09/23/cor…

These seriously bother me.
Read 6 tweets
9 Oct
Natural origin proponents and agnostic/lab leak proponents keep talking past each other because there are some fundamental differences in how we interpret the state of knowledge and novel findings relating to #OriginsOfCovid
Close relatives to SARS2 have been found in bats.

Natural origin proponents: we will find the intermediate host of SARS2 soon.

Agnostic/lab origin proponents: we still don’t know how the virus got from bats to humans.
On precedents.

Natural origin proponents: this new pandemic is most likely history repeating itself.

Agnostic/lab origin proponents: viruses, including coronavirus and the first SARS virus, have leaked from labs too.
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