Starting ~27:30min mark, UK chief scientific advisor Patrick Vallance discusses the 1 Feb 2020 phone call with his US counterpart and leading experts, which he says produced the Proximal Origin @NatureMedicine correspondence by Andersen et al.
bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0…
He describes his role at this meeting as a bystander and says that’s why none of the emails can be shared- because they’re not his emails.

So the public cannot see the emails informing both US and UK scientific heads as well as the most influential #OriginOfCovid publication.
I also want to know that those emails are indeed as boring as some scientists have asserted. Let’s see them and we can all re-focus our energies on more productive venues of investigation. But for now, it looks like the scientists at that meeting don’t intend to be transparent.
There’s probably nothing too scandalous in there, but those excessive redactions make it look like there might be something terrible.
The emails are either so dry and boring that you question the judgment of the folks putting in the redactions…

Why would you redact pure scientific content that can help the public understand how natural the #OriginOfCovid must be?
Or they could show us that several leading experts actually thought the virus had a lab origin and were terrified of the public’s response if a lab origin hypothesis were to proliferate in the media and scientific community unchecked.

We don’t know. So we can only guess.
These redactions have made it near impossible for the scientists to demonstrate to the public that they were focused on the science and did not let policy or politics influence their work. This is ironically what most of Vallance’s BBC interview discusses.
In interviews: “Scientists must be transparent and stay focused on the science not politics so that they can build public trust.”

In practice: “Just trust me, the public doesn’t need to see what’s under those redactions to make sure scientists weren’t influenced by politics.”
Please follow your own advice on scientific transparency.
In Jan 2020, why did the lead author of Proximal Origin tweet about finding the intermediate host of SARS2 “within a month” when behind the scenes he was fearing a lab-engineered origin of the virus?
It’s one thing for the experts to have a complete change of mind 3 days after the 1 Feb 2020 phone call, but it’s another thing for them to be worrying about a lab origin while saying in public that a natural origin will be found soon (😉 included).
Proximal Origin was worked on under the leadership and guidance of key experts on the 1 Feb 2020 phone call.
They had started sharing a draft as early as Feb 4.
But when you look at the acknowledgements in Proximal Origin, the only expert thanked for contributing to discussions is M. Farzan.
nature.com/articles/s4159…
If Proximal Origin came about due to the expert discussion at the Feb 1 meeting, shouldn’t all intellectual contribution be acknowledged?

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18 Oct
"To chair the task force Sachs initially chose zoologist Peter Daszak, one of the world’s most experienced researchers of bat coronaviruses."

Enough said.
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"The other 11 people on the task force refused to remove Daszak from their ranks, but agreed to make Keusch their chair instead."

Yep. Disband them.
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Not sure whether to be surprised or not that SAGO is already following in the footsteps of the first China-WHO joint #OriginOfCovid study.

See our letter from the Paris Group published in the @WSJ this March describing limitations of the joint study:
wsj.com/articles/who-i…
@WSJ Team selection process did not adequately screen for reasonably perceived conflicts of interest.

Skills represented are predominantly focused on zoonosis. Can this team properly investigate a lab leak?

Team does not have access to records/data.
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Actually, I would use that 99 million dollars to FOIA the **** out of communications among scientists and journal editors outside of China.
Almost every major finding relating to the #OriginOfCovid has come from FOIA'ed or leaked documents, or extremely delayed scientific journal publications or data hidden in the scientific literature and online databases.
We've got the Mojiang mine medical thesis and China CDC director thesis pulled out of a Chinese thesis database by @TheSeeker268
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I have to say that if Chinese scientists have been hiding evidence of a natural spillover #OriginOfCovid for months and months instead of immediately sharing such evidence to rule out a lab origin, I’m going to be quite irate.
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“This lack of evidence is disturbing, especially in comparison with past pandemics. In the case of MERS, the intermediate host, the dromedary, was identified nine months after the onset of the pandemic.

Daniel Lucey: “As soon as we started looking, we found”.”
“In the case of the first SARS, finding this intermediate host was even faster: “In March 2003, we had confirmation that we were dealing with a coronavirus. And in May, we had already found many animal species carrying similar viruses in the markets of Guangdong”
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I have the same stance for both natural & lab origins. No matter how many ridiculous arguments are made for either hypothesis, they are plausible & worthy of investigation.
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"The Wuhan Institute of Virology hasn’t done enough to show it’s been operating safely, and that’s a reasonable argument in favor of continued probing into the possible lab origin of the virus. It’s important to keep the focus on that, and not on the uninformed speculation"
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"The difference between the early days of HIV science and today is the vertiginous firepower virologists now have due to phenomenal advances.. Genomes can be synthesized.. Virologists like me have been doing this since the 1980s with ever increasing ease."
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"EcoHealth proposed surgically precise modifications that would push these viral chimeras even further down the road towards what must bluntly be called a coronavirus admirably suited to infecting humans.

And we can all agree that SARS-CoV-2 is a macabre success story."
"What we do not know – and badly need to know – is whether this proposal was submitted elsewhere, financed and performed.

Bear in mind the proposal was written in 2018, 18 months before the outbreak in Wuhan."
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