Thread by @sankrant

"Equality" is a theological idea. So it is strange to see self-declared "atheists" preach it.

There is no equality in nature. Thus "equality" is inherently unnatural. It is an idea from outside nature.

Can a "secular, atheist..." explain equality without invoking dogma?

हिंदू जीवन दर्शन नें "समानता" को आदर्श कब माना? कुछ शास्त्र से स्रोत दीजिए।

https://twitter.com/rupeshvishwak13/status/1451022586129928195?s=20

Yes. But wherefore does the "atheist" derive equality from. Does it have any "scientific" basis?

https://twitter.com/SubramaniReddy3/status/1451026548438417409?s=20

Lol, you tell me. What is the "scientific, rationalist" basis for "equality."

Clearly, with evidence. Not rhetoric.

https://twitter.com/idesofavril/status/1451210516622241795?s=20

I'm not saying any of that. I'm asking you the scientific, rationalist evidence for "equality." So stick to the question, not rhetorical devices.

https://twitter.com/idesofavril/status/1451275663021797403?s=20

Rigveda 10/117/9. Thanks @TheTruth33_ .

मनुष्य के हाथ समान हैं, पर कार्य में समान प्रवेश नहीं करते। बालक को पालनेवाली दो धाइयाँ बालक को समान दूध नहीं पिलाती, माता से उत्पन्न हुए जुडवाँ दो मनुष्यों के समान बल नहीं होते।वंशवाले दो बड़े मनुष्य अपने अन्न धनादि से किसी अधिकारी को..

...समानरूप से तृप्त नहीं करते हैं, इसलिये दान को स्पर्धा या तुलना पर न छोड़ना चाहिये, किन्तु श्रद्धा से देना ही चाहिये ॥९॥

समानता मिथ्या है, अस्वाभाविक है। समदृष्टि हो सकती है, सब शिव ही है लेकिन प्रकृति में समानता केवल हिंसा से आ सकती है। और तब भी नहीं।

Yes, it derives from theology. It is secularized theology, where "belief in God" has been left behind but theological ideas remain in secular form. But when asked for their origin, "secularists" hum and haw like this, since they cannot answer from science.

https://twitter.com/idesofavril/status/1451278036825894922?s=20

Balagangadhara has an important paper on the Protestant Theology behind "commonsense" liberal ideas.

"John Locke, Christian Liberty, and the Predicament of Liberal Toleration"—Jakob De Roover & S. N. Balagangadhara

philpapers.org/rec/DERJLC-3

I could equally, for this purpose, call it a "supernatural" idea i.e. one not present or derived from nature.

So the way to refute it would be to provide a scientific or empirical basis for equality.

https://twitter.com/SimonC43174444/status/1451292472936738819?s=20

I asked for evidence of "equality" from science. No evidence is offered. Except to imply that question must be due to a "prejudiced mind."

Parallels religious zealots arguing asking for evidence for "God" must be due "prejudice." My question is heresy. 😏

https://twitter.com/heather_leisure/status/1451293751658233915?s=20

You reasoning posits there is already equality, naturally. What is this equality to be "achieved" then?

https://twitter.com/CcShicha/status/1451303662643396614?s=20

We had an entire government commission report, arguing from "secular, liberal" principles, that the desideratum is "equality of outcomes."

And I see equality being used as a slogan by self-described Marxists.

https://twitter.com/SimonC43174444/status/1451304127317823498?s=20

That would be a whole different debate, maybe another thread for that. 😌 What is this "god" you don't believe in?

https://twitter.com/SimonC43174444/status/1451304324894703621?s=20

Very gracious of you to admit "equality" is not based on science.

But what explains your extreme attachment to this unscientific idea? That you'd attack anyone who's simply asking a questions as "prejudiced." Usually only religious dogmatists do that.

https://twitter.com/heather_leisure/status/1451304273510219806?s=20

पढ़ने से इस "समान" का अर्थ "equality" नहीं "equanimity" लग रहा है।
@sammodacharya?

https://twitter.com/rupeshvishwak13/status/1451381356810829826?s=20

I'm stunned at the lack of reasoning ability of these "atheists." Where did I say or suggest that "theism" was superior to "atheism." 😆 Personally I find them both absurd, but that is not the question I am raising.

https://twitter.com/shun_religion/status/1451477594386223115?s=20