Since trying to call out overt transphobia, @jackappleby - a "gender critical" man - has discovered what the movement he has been supporting for 4 years is like:
- Denial of transphobia
- Fake news
- Hounding of those who call out bigotry.
- a bunch of fucking lunatics.
Jack has lost over 300 followers since calling out "transphobic bigotry" in a pub after the LGB Alliance conference this week, which, concincidentally, is almost as many people as were at the conference.
It isn't a "section" of the movement, @jackappleby
It *is* the movement.
Julia has never been secretive about her views and Jack seems shocked (!) that Julia, IRL, would upset a trans person, when she's been at it for years. Jack is is an utter fool for thinking that Julia would act any differently around a GC trans woman.
This article is over a year old.
Did Jack not read it?
Did he think she didn't mean what she said about not having trans ppl in the GC movement?
At what point does he start to look at himself if he is part of a movement that comfortably includes Julia?
Julia is not only very welcome, she is included in lists of gender critical heroes this year by other prominent gender critical heroes.
Some of these people may have "tactical" differences, but their core beliefs about trans people are all the same.
How can it have shocked @jackappleby, that a movement that canonises a person like this, would support people being cruel to his "trans friend who agrees with me" in a pub? It's ironic that he is "calling it out" now, when he is responsible for promoting this movement for years.
Jack is not appalled by transphobic bigotry. Of course he isn't. He is, in many people's opinion, a transphobic bigot himself. What he's actually appalled at is that a gender critical person was mean to one of the "good" trans people...
After all, she's a trans woman who let's @jackappleby call her a "him," and Jack is only just grasping that it doesn't matter how small trans people make themselves in order to accommodate his transphobia, the gender critical movement are still disgusted by them.
"The truth will out."
Come on @jackappleby, you've lost 300 gender critical followers and counting, isn't the truth that you belonged in their movement because you were no different the them?
You understand all of these criticisms could equally be applied to you.
To most trans people, @jackappleby, you're no different than Julia Long. You're just as mean and cruel and hateful, and the second you stop doing that, make up with your former friends, and leave trans people alone, your life will be a lot better.
Trust me, the amount of ex-GC people I've DM'ed with is in double figures, and it was not being able to square the abuse and cruelty of other GC people with their sense of themselves as "anti-bullying" which was the beginning of the end for a lot of former GC ppl.
Remember how Linehan regularly cited Kritisina Harrison as a "trans woman who agrees with me" for years.
Remember Kristina said that Stella Perrett cartoon was transphobic?
Remember Linehan platforming Perrett after that.
When did Linehan last cite Harrison?Can you remember?
Did you see the transphobic comment about Harrison by one of Linehan's subscribers calling her "Mr. Harrison" and an "AGP."
Hi gender critical people, in case you don't know, accusing trans or gay people of being pedophiles or "nonces" because they exist, or because they are supporting their own (or others) LGBT+ rights, are transphobic and homophobic hate crimes in the UK.
If you were the person(s) who screamed "nonce!" at Jen, and she were to decide to report this incident to the police, it wouldn't be your GC leaders having to face the consequences. They'd be entirely happy for you to be a martyr for their cause.
You might want to have a conversation and decide which version of gay rights history best suits your anti-trans propaganda.
Was it "brash," or was it "almost always civil and polite?"
Can't be both lads.
Happy to help.
I don't know what was happening where you were, but over here some of the opposition to Relgious campaigners against gay and women's rights were stoving in the windows of the Youth Defence offices on a regular basis, while others were engaging in dialogue.
Perhaps, it was *both* then and now, it is also both?
What gay rights advocates never did was sit down and try to convince the Religious Right they were wrong. The RR still believe the same things they did 10 years ago. They had conversations with people who weren't bigots.
We exist in a time when @netflix has a brilliant documentary called "Disclosure" about how disgusting movies like Ace Ventura are towards trans people, but it also streams Ace Ventura!
Why is Netflix still streaming a movie that is horrifically transphobic?
For anyone who doesn't know, a major plot point (spoiler) is that the bad "guy" is a trans woman. It's revealed in a scene where the woman is "comically" stripped and shown to be tucking. Ace pukes about sleeping with her. Many other men puke about it too.
The idea that it's utterly disgusting to sleep with a trans woman gives rise to the "trans panic" defence in cases where it is claimed that discovering someone is trans is a mitigating factor in assault or murder of a trans person.
I think Jon is a great man and a brilliant comedian, but like a lot of white, American liberal comics, he has huge blind spots about his culture. He exists as part of a comic culture where in 2012, people like Tina Fey thought it was okay to have blackface on 30 Rock...
For years I saw people who think they had "reasonable" objections to gay and trans rights activism cite a singular "gay/trans person who agrees with me," and I cannot believe a clearly intelligent person like Margaret Atwood has fallen into the same mode of thinking.
The media have been reporting that everyone who has "reasonable objections" to trans rights is subjected to death threats. I would encourage people to search terms like "kill homophobes" and explain how the hundreds of tweets you find there represent gay rights activism?
So, ask yourself, how have tweets tweeting about subjecting transphobes of violence become representative of those who support trans rights? If the media wanted, they could just as easily do the same thing with gay rights, except we have largely moved on from "gay panic."