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Oct 27, 2021 10 tweets 7 min read Read on X
Interesting results from the #TOGETHER RCT of #fluvoxamine vs placebo in n=1497 high risk outpatients in 🇧🇷 with #COVID:
-people who received fluvoxamine were less likely to require extended ED visit or hospitalization (11% vs 16%, RR 0.68 CI 0.52-0.88)
thelancet.com/journals/langl…
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TOGETHER was a large, multi-arm adaptive platform DB-RCT done in 🇧🇷 Brazil from June 2020 to Jan 2021.

Patients were identified after testing positive, stratified by age (>50 or <50 yo) & randomized to fluvoxamine 100 mg BID x 10 days vs placebo.
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It builds upon 2 studies:
-an observational study in 🇫🇷 that found better outcomes among inpts already taking SSRIs
nature.com/articles/s4138…
-a small n=152 RCT done in 🇺🇸 showing a decrease in clinical deterioration among outpts randomized to Fluvoxamine
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/…
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The groups were balanced, with the exception of sex: 60% female in FLV vs 55% in placebo arm.
This difference isn’t significant (Fishers p=0.06 Chi squared p=0.06) but women do have lower rates of hospitalization/mortality so this *could* matter.

~40% had <3 days of symptoms.
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The 1' results were promising:
-in ITT analysis, pts in the FLV arm were less likely to have an extended ED visit (>6 hrs) or hospitalization: 11% vs 16%. This met pre-specified criteria for superiority
-this is ARR = 5% or NNT = 20 to prevent 1 hospitalization. Pretty good!
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Few of the 2' endpoints were significant, however:
- more pts discontinued FLV than placebo (26% vs 18%)
- there were numerically more COVID hospitalizations & deaths with placebo
- by PP analysis, there was a small reduction in mortality with FLV: <1% (1/548) vs 2% (12/618)
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This adherence issue is interesting. It could suggest that side effects may be limiting for some number of the participants.

(Notably, the UMN & ACTIV6 studies use 50 mg BID instead of 100 mg BID using in TOGETHER. This should elucidate if it's dose dependent intolerance.)
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Clinical 🥡:
-a large well designed RCT shows that early fluvoxamine treatment in high risk outpatients w/ COVID appears to decrease the risk of hospitalization
-multiple high quality RCTs are ongoing. We should have more data shortly (& see if there is a mortality reduction)
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Clinical 🥡 (cont):
-the effect size NNT=20 to prevent hospitalization is similar to that of monoclonal antibodies & inhaled budesonide
-fluvoxamine is a cheap, widely available medication. Even a relatively small decrease in hospitalizations would be a big deal worldwide
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Finally, for the #CultOfIvermectin:
TOGETHER was a multi-arm trial. If this arm shows that FLV is beneficial, you ought to accept that IVM isn't. (you can't argue it wasn't early enough or underpowered, etc).
I look forward to watching your new/bizarre cognitive contortions
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Oct 13
#HurricaneHelene damaged the factory responsible for manufacturing over 60% of all IV fluids used in the US, leading to a major national shortage.

As clinicians what can we do to about the #IVFluidShortage and how can we prevent this crisis from happening again?

A thread 🧵
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There are many things we can do as clinicians to improve ICU care & reduce IVF use.

1️⃣Don't order Maintenance IV Fluid!
Almost no patient actually needs continuous IV fluids.
Most either need resuscitation (e.g. boluses) or can take fluid other ways (PO, feeding tube, TPN).
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Frequently if someone is NPO overnight for a procedure, MIVF are ordered.
This is wrong for two reasons.
We are all NPO while asleep & don't need salt water infusions!
We should be letting people drink clears up to TWO HOURS before surgery, per ASA.

3/ pubs.asahq.org/anesthesiology…Image
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Oct 1
New favorite physiology paper: Central Venous Pressure in Space.

So much space & cardio physiology to unpack here including:
- effects of posture, 3g shuttle launch, & microgravity on CVP
- change in the relationship between filling pressure (CVP) & LV size
- Guyton curves!
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To measure CVP in space they needed two things:
📼 an instrument/recorder that could accurately measure pressure despite g-force, vibration, & changes in pressure. They built & tested one!
🧑‍🚀👩‍🚀👨‍🚀 an astronaut willing to fly into space with a central line! 3 volunteered!
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The night before launch they placed a 4Fr central line in the median cubital vein & advanced under fluoro.

🚀The astronauts wore the data recorder under their flight suit during launch.

🌍The collected data from launch up to 48 hrs in orbit.
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Jul 16
The media silence on this is deafening.

Did he have a head CT? What did it show?
Did he have stitches? Tetanus shot?

The NYT ran nonstop stories about Biden’s health after the debate but can’t be bothered to report on the health of someone who was literally shot in the head?
To the people in the replies who say it’s impossible because of “HIPPA”
1. I assume you mean HIPAA
2. A normal presidential candidate would allow his doctors to release the info. This is exactly what happened when Reagan survived an assassination attempt.
washingtonpost.com/obituaries/202…
My advice to journalists is to lookup tangential gunshot wounds (TGSW).

Ask questions like:
- what imaging has he had?
- what cognitive assessments?
- has he seen a neurosurgeon or neurologist?
- he’s previously had symptoms like slurred speech, abnormal gait - are these worse?
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Jun 30
You've probably heard "don't give lactated ringers because it raises lactate"

This statement is ~98% false, but there's one crucial practice-changing fact that you need to know.

A 🧵 all about lactic acid and lactated ringers!
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First off, we should ackowledge the obvious: Lactated ringers does in fact contain lactate... 28 mEq/L in fact

BUT there's one little detail to remember:
Lactate ≠ Lactic acid

When we measure "lactate" we care about the ACID (H+) which lowers pH & causes organ dysfunction
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But the correlation between pH & lactate is really bad!

Look at this analysis of lactate vs pH in 171 ICU patients.

There is a *weak* correlation in people with arterial lactate > 5, but even w/ lactate =10, pH ranged from 7.5 to 7.05. Quite a spread!

3/ ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
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Jun 13
If you intubate you need to read the #PREOXI trial!
-n=1301 people requiring intubation in ED/ ICU were randomized to preoxygenation with oxygen mask vs non-invasive ventilation (NIV)
-NIV HALVED the risk of hypoxemia: 9 vs 18%
-NIV reduced mortality: 0.2% vs 1.1%

#CCR24
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Hypoxemia (SpO2 <85%) occurs in 10-20% of ED & ICU intubations.

1-2% of intubations performed in ED/ICU result in cardiac arrest!

This is an exceptionally dangerous procedure and preoxygenation is essential to keep patients safe.

But what’s the *BEST* way to preoxygenate?
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Most people use a non-rebreather oxygen mask, but because of its loose fit it often delivers much less than 100% FiO2.

NIV (“BiPAP”) delivers a higher FiO2 because of its tight fit. It also delivers PEEP & achieves a higher mean airway pressure which is theoretically helpful!
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Jun 12
Results from #PROTECTION presented #CCR24 & published @NEJM.
- DB RCT of amino acid infusion vs placebo in n=3511 people undergoing cardiac surgery w/ bypass.
- Reduced incidence of AKI (26.9% vs 31.7% NNT=20) & need for RRT (1.4% vs 1.9% NNT=200)

Potential game changer!

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I work in a busy CVICU & I often see AKI following cardiac surgery.

Despite risk stratification & hemodynamic optimization, AKI remains one of the most common complications after cardiac surgery with bypass.

Even a modest reduction in AKI/CRRT would be great for my patients.
2/ From Nature reviews nephrology  https://www.nature.com/articles/nrneph.2017.119
During cardiac surgery w/ bypass, renal blood flow (RBF) is reduced dramatically. This causes injury, especially in susceptible individuals.

But what if we could use physiology to protect the kidneys?

Renal blood vessels dilate after a high protein meal increasing RBF & GFR!
3/ https://www.jtcvs.org/article/S0022-5223(18)33243-4/fulltext
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