What COVID vaccine would I give my kid?
If I had a kid age 5-11, I would get them the Pfizer vaccine, ASAP.
Even if the Moderna vax were available, I would go with the Pfizer vax for my kids. Because the Pfizer vaccine is a 10mcg dose. 🧵
10mcg Pfizer gave great immune responses in 5-11 year olds in the Phase 2/3 clinical trial, as good as 30mcg in 20 year olds ( equal antibody levels & ~100% antibody positive). Great to see the kids COVID-19 vaccine results from Pfizer provided to the FDA.
Given that kids generally have a much milder course of COVID-19 disease, having a level of immunity equal to that of young adults (or somewhat less than young adults that got the Moderna vaccine) should be more than enough for a 5-11 year old.
No T cell data, as usual (sigh), but the T cells are probably there fine.
Also, I would probably get the kid two doses ~6 weeks apart. (instead of 21 days) But if my kid or wife wanted it done at day 28 to be finished, that's fine too.
(Pfizer adult dose is 30mcg. Moderna adult dose is 100mcg. Moderna kid dose proposed is 50mcg.)
The myocarditis risk from the RNA vaccines is small, but it is real, and I operate on the assumption that the 50mcg Moderna has somewhat higher risk than 10mcg Pfizer. That may not be true.
The current data only show a moderate trend (non-significant) for a difference between 30mcg Pfizer and 100mcg Moderna in young adults.
The FDA ran scenarios on risk:benefit, and by the parameters I though were most plausible, the Pfizer vaccine benefit outweighed the risk 5x. (~50 hospitalizations vs 250 hospitalizations, with COVID disease hospitalizations being much more concerning for long term consequences)
And, as the FDA & CDC noted, it is unconventional myocarditis that is transient and ‘mild’, (most hospitalizations were for observation as opposed to treatment). So, not super concerning, compared to viral infection myocarditis which can have severe long term consequences.
It looks like the 10mcg Pfizer has pretty low side effects in kids in general. Which is nice.
I certainly think choosing Moderna is fine!
But, of course, most parents won’t have that option for a while. And the risk:benefit ratio tilts more towards Pfizer for me for kids. Whereas, in adults I think it tilts towards Moderna.

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25 Oct
What should I get as the 2nd dose? That's a question I get a lot.

If it were me, and I had only gotten 1-dose of vaccine & was soon to get my 2nd dose, here's what I would do:
1st dose + 2nd dose
J&J + Mod
Pfizer + Mod
Mod + Mod
See a pattern? 🙂 Moderna 2nd gives the most robust immune response with any of the others. But Pfizer is pretty close! (and I'd get 100mcg Moderna if I could)
Both in the Atmar/Lyke et al. work, and multiple published studies of AZ vax + RNA 2nd, getting RNA vaccine as the 2nd dose after an adeno vector has resulted in better antibody and T cell responses, compared to 2 doses of adeno.
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25 Oct
1-dose J&J is ok for a while, but needs a 2nd dose of vaccine (any) by 6 months. Anytime after 2 months is fine. A short thread on the recent J&J data to the FDA . 🧵
fda.gov/advisory-commi…
J&J 1-dose clinical trial efficacy.
These data, from a placebo controlled clinical trial for efficacy + safety, are robust. They are also consistent w/ multiple "real world" studies. Efficacy v. cases, hospitalizations, and deaths isn't as good as mRNA vaccines, across 6 months.
Or graphically:
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25 Oct
Is it good to mix COVID vaccines?

This is a really great clinical study by Lyke et al., reported at the recent FDA meeting.

Mix-and-match COVID vaccines

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Mix-and-match COVID vaccines
Key findings:
🔵   mRNA + mRNA combinations are similar
🔵   J&J + mRNA gives much higher antibodies than J&J + J&J
🔵   No T cell data (sigh)
All the key data:
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19 Oct
Why isn't there a Delta variant vaccine?

I hear this a lot. 🧵 Three reasons:
1. The regular vaccines give great booster responses against Delta and other variants.
2. “Original recipe’ vaccine is better suited for other variants
3. It is faster to proceed with original vaccines
1/ The regular vaccines give great booster responses against Delta and other variants
This was first shown by Moderna, with 'original recipe' vaccine booster, compare to Beta booster.
nature.com/articles/s4159…
And for T cells, the T cell epitopes between variants are highly conserved, so the 'original recipe' vaccine should be a good booster. Though no T cell booster data are published.
doi.org/10.1016/j.xcrm…
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19 Oct
FDA panel greenlighted Moderna booster vaccines. CDC will consider it this week. My thoughts 🧵:
🔵   Moderna booster definitely enhances immunity
🔵   Moderna boosters for people > 65 at 6+ months is reasonable, and healthcare workers
🔵   Moderna booster needed less than Pfizer
🔵   The Moderna booster definitely enhances immunity
Over the Moderna booster data and FDA filing look good. The data are more limited than desired, but it all makes sense.
The FDA probably struggled with the idea of making a Moderna booster recommendation different than the Pfizer booster recommendation they recently made.
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24 Sep
CDC Director Dr. Walensky made the right decision last night on boosters. 🧵
Boosters now available (not required) for Pfizer vaxxed after 6 months:
🔵  65 and older
🔵  healthcare workers
🔵  nursing home residents
🔵  50 and older with health problems
apnews.com/article/corona…
This was in line with the FDA decision last week. It also matches my suggestions two weeks ago on TWIV and VOSD. And earlier on UCSF Grand Rounds. It makes sense to have vaccine boosters available to these people, who received the Pfizer vaccine.
Again, the Pfizer vaccine booster shot is *available*. It is not *required* to count as fully vaxxed. That is because without the booster shot, the vaccine is still doing an outstanding job at preventing serious COVID-19.
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