I’ve no objection to working with economists and indeed I have done so during the pandemic! That’s just one of the reasons this article seems to be addressing a straw man. It also misses something really important that shouldn’t be forgotten 1/n nytimes.com/2021/11/19/opi…
Few serious people argue that there are not trade offs between costs and benefits of different elements of pandemic response, but there is only so much a combined model of the sort proposed in the article can do. And at the start of a pandemic it could be actually damaging 2/n
The more complicated a model, the more information you need to make it work. At the start of a pandemic this is typically in very short supply. Remember the arguments about the infection fatality rate that lasted nearly a year? 3/n
That’s exactly the sort of information you need, and it will be uncertain for ages. Exponentials are not kind to those who wait - let alone those who delay action while waiting for certainty about how bad something is exactly, rather than realising it is bad enough 4/n
At a later point in a pandemic there is much more room for these sorts of discussions. And indeed I’d encourage them to facilitate a long term strategy for pandemic management (which I’ve been advocating for since summer 2020). That’s not what we got… 5/n
Instead of a long term plan, as soon as case counts start to drop a rotating panel of usual suspects (most without experience in ID epi) start jumping up and down declaring ‘herd immunity’ is here and the pandemic is over. They don’t seem overly fazed by having been so wrong 6/n
And then something changes (seasons, contact patterns, variants) and cases climb again. None of this is rocket science, and as we’ve been saying since the start it’s a marathon not a sprint. There’s another important thing to remember 7/n
The situation changes over time. The consequences of increasing cases in places with high vaccination rates (esp in older folks) are utterly different from those without such protection. Similarly places vary in the quantity and quality of available healthcare resources 8/n
And so I am anxious that an overly complicated model will only produce endless discussion over how it should be parameterised. And a place for policy makers to hide from hard decisions 9/n
And of course epidemiologists and economists should talk to each other.

Indeed, they already do

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14 Nov
Some outlets are trumpeting the currently small number of cases in Florida as vindicating the state’s covid-curious approach to the pandemic. The reality is different, and uncomfortable for undervaccinated communities here and around the world as the nights draw in 1/n
FL was always high risk for high mortality, if only because of the age profile of the population. However once effective vaccines were widely available in early 2021, there were reasons to think that bullet had been dodged. That’s not how things turned out 2/n
A combination of lax mitigation and poor vaccination in older age groups led to a large surge of infections with the Delta variant, which is both more transmissible and likely to lead to hospitalization 3/n
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10 Nov
Ok just saw the first episode of season 4. Anyone who has ever heard me lecture on the importance of distinguishing between Burkholderia mallei and pseudomallei will understand how much pain it caused me
For more on what pseudomallei can do, see this recent non pandemic outbreak story foodsafetynews.com/2021/10/rare-b…
B. mallei on the other hand causes glanders (the name of the episode) which is a problem for horses rather than humans. Which confused the heck out of me (especially when a minor character wheels out a “meningitis” vaccine)
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5 Nov
Hard to avoid noticing that the relationship between cases and deaths in the UK has not been severed, but nor has it been constant. The big delta spike in July had relatively few immediate severe consequences, that's no longer the case 1/?
The most recent data are showing a decline in case counts (when was the half term break?) and a slackening in the pace of hospitalizations, but it is clear that even if things slow (at least temporarily) the country is still in a bad place headed into the winter 2/?
Obviously the consequences of infections depend on who has been getting infected - even vaccinated older people are at higher risk than unvaccinated younger people (who are themselves not at zero risk. And even rare outcomes can add up when enormous numbers are infected) 3/?
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22 Oct
The situation in the UK right now is complicated, with increasing cases while vaccines keep the very worst consequences at bay. However that makes no difference to the status of this as a contender for the most stupid statement of the pandemic bbc.com/news/uk-politi…
I wear masks at work unless alone in my office. Compliance is pretty good though not universal all the time. These are people I know. There have been no outbreaks there as yet. And we would know as we are all tested weekly
While I am at work I see people I know. Their ability to infect me is not altered by my knowing them. Most infections will be by someone you know
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14 Oct
A short 🧵 about the value of rapid tests. As long time followers will know, a runny nose is not very informative for me because I have allergies, and they have been playing up recently. I had three -ve PCR tests, but a worsening of symptoms over the weekend had me anxious... 1/?
even worse, I was visiting (vaccinated) friends and hanging out indoors and unmasked. You might think that epidemiologists are safer than most to hang with, and I could think of no known exposures, but I couldn't escape the (irrational) sense that fate has a sense of irony 2/?
After all, the prevalence is not super high here but I have been riding city buses, going to work etc and while it's not like I've been attending illegal raves (those days are past) I have been venturing indoors. So my persistently runny nose had me a bit 😬 3/?
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This fascinating article from @dylanlscott clearly draws out how those who sought to belittle the risk early in the pandemic have wound up embracing ineffectual and dangerous alternatives to vaccines, even as the virus keeps killing vox.com/coronavirus-co…
Key line: "people have still proven quite capable of shaping and reshaping a narrative that doesn’t require them to admit they might have been wrong." And sadly this includes a small but vocal minority of scientists you'd hope would know better
The protection of vaccination should be extended to all those who want it, and that *includes* giving people accurate information, from a trusted and trustworthy source, that helps them make the right choice
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