vMax 280km/h (good)
The best quality ride, airy carriages, and these are the quietest ICEs (no motors whirring) and there's a proper Bordrestaurant
RANK 2️⃣
IC3 / Baureihe 403
vMax 300km/h (v good!)
One of these on the Köln-Frankfurt HSL is a joy, and the interior is good and being modernised. Ride is a bit bouncy. The best looking ICEs too
Rank 3️⃣
ICE 1
vMax 280km/h (good)
The oldest ICEs. Lack of air suspension means a bit of a bumpy ride. But the interior (some compartments!) and domed dining car are classic
Rank 4️⃣
ICE 4
vMax 250/265km/h (OK)
I'm torn about these. The interior feels quite cramped (esp. on the 7 carriage version), but the ride quality is excellent. They look ugly
Rank 5️⃣
ICE Velaro 407
vMax 320km/h (the best!)
Look like a seal inspired the design. Fast, and run to Paris. Ride is bumpy at speed, and the interior is pretty bland - uninterrupted open cabins
Rank 6️⃣
ICE 3M / Baureihe 406
vMax 300km/h (v good!)
The ICE3 variant that runs to Belgium and Netherlands. They break down *all the time*. The bain of my life. And unlike Baureihe are not yet renovated
Rank 7️⃣
ICE T
vMax 230km/h (poor)
The only ICE that can tilt. But that's about the only good thing about these. The ride quality is awful (no air suspension). All kinds of stuff breaks down - in need of renovation. Avoid if you can!
Rank 8️⃣
ICE TD
vMax 200km/h (rubbish)
The only diesel ICE ever made, these had a low top speed, awful reliability, and only made (sort of) sense on the Hamburg-København route - before being withdrawn after one STÖRUNG, STÖRUNG too many. Good riddance!
So what do you think?
Pics all from German Wikipedia about each type of ICE. Max speed in regular service shown.
And, yeah, thread written after a day of bad experience on ICE Ts!
/ends
And in reply to @simonschre's point... no I didn't include
ICE MET
vMax 220km/h (poor)
The most deluxe interior of any train in Germany *by miles*, but these aren't really ICEs - they're a locomotive hauled oddity. And there are only 2 of them...
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This morning I’m one of the first new regional trains Maubeuge 🇫🇷 - Charleroi Central 🇧🇪 #CrossBorderRail
It was a bit of a #fail at the station. I needed a ticket to Erquelinnes, the first station in Belgium. But prior to today trains from Maubeuge didn’t stop there!
Ticket machine ⛔️
Ask at the ticket office. “Le train ne s’arrête pas à Erquelinnes!” I politely told the SNCF employee that yes, it did stop at Erquelinnes. I explained the situation to the SNCB train manager and he laughed, confirmed it did stop there, and I bought the ticket online!
Delays in my favour. Maybe? S-Bahn to FFM Flughafen. Get a late running ICE to Köln Messe/Deutz there. Then try to blag my way onto a Thalys Köln Hbf to Bruxelles? It’s a long shot but it might work…
ICE 612 Frankfurt Flughafen to Köln Messe/Deutz.
This is why accurate live running data in apps matters. Were this not running 10 min late I’d not have caught it… but live data allowed me to plan a connection that’d otherwise not work
Already on the 2nd train of the day: TGV Montbard - Paris. All being well I’ll be in Denmark tonight… but that feels a long way off just now! #EGPCongress#crossborderrail
Across Paris RER Gare de Lyon to Gare du Nord, walk to Gare de l’Est (faster than changing into a Métro to Est) and it’s onto the TGV to Mannheim. So far so good, but I banked on this bit working 🙂 #EGPCongress#CrossBorderRail
Franco-German train service. Very French prices! And no, it’s too early (and expensive) for #beerontrains 😉
Jeez. It could take until 2025 until TGVs are approved for the line.
And the whole effing point of Stuttgart21 - of which this line is a part - was to create a Paris-München high speed corridor!
Really, how can everyone mess up *so badly*?
And to those going “yeah but there are few TGVs anyway” true, but so it goes on and on. International services are the lowest priority - even when *they were the stated rationale for building the line*