One way to think of the difference between philosophy and theology is to compare Simone Weil and Kant. (Thread)

For Kant, the universe/God is unknowable and that is all that can be said.

For Weil, not only is God unknowable to us, but we are unknowable to God.
How does Weil know that we are unknowable to God? Strictly speaking, she doesn't. But her poetic imagination/faith allows her to transcend her not knowing. She feels the noumenal realm to be knocking on our wall as much as we are knocking on its. 2/x
The theologian and philosopher here agree on the boundaries of knowledge. But they diverge in how they react to this boundary. For Weil, a boundary implies or conjures up a real sense of longing. For Kant, it is what it is. 3/x
If you hear a scratch on a wall, is it just an echo of your own projection (Kant) or is it the real scratch of an Other, reaching through the wall of its projection and yours, to reach you (Weil)?
Kant proves we can't know for sure. Weil insists that a lack of proof is not a proof of lack. 5/x
The same reality viewed from a faithful point of view has a different mood. The mood insisted on by faith is that of the primacy of relationship, no matter how broken or faint. 6/x
The Kantian point of view (and also the modern rationalist-cognitivist one, more generally) takes everything as a manifestation of the brain.

The Weilian one believes that relationship is primary. 7/x
I'm with Weil. And fwiw, both Kant and Weil get us to existentialism. You don't have to be an egoist to be an existentialist. 8/x
Both also have a sense of responsibility. Functionally, there may not be a great divide. But temperamentally, the abyss is great. 9/x
Yet the recognition that relationship is primary is a great entree into faith. For while not everyone can get to the idea of God, everyone can get to the idea of a mother or father, or even just a caretaker or teacher, who inducted one into Being. 10/x
We still have this hinted at in notions like "Mother tongue" and "Father land" (abused as these terms have been). These terms intimate a universal sense that even if we live in a Matrix, it is a Matrix in which we are not alone. 11/x
Modern thinkers tend to agree that we live in a Matrix, but the voice of theology is the prayeful voice imagining that the Matrix is only for now. It is, in Buber's words, an "Eclipse of God." We might even risk saying that we are loved!

12/12
If you care to share or dunk, here's the top of the thread:

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with Zohar Atkins

Zohar Atkins Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @ZoharAtkins

14 Dec
It's time for a @threadapalooza on Hans Jonas (1903-1993), a brilliant and under-appreciated philosopher, theologian, and scholar of "Gnosticism," who fled Nazi Germany to teach at the New School, and who was a pioneer in the fields of bioethics and environmentalism.
Jonas was a Jewish student of Heidegger's, whose thought, like Arendt's and Levinas's, is at once oppositional to and indebted to Heidegger's. 2
I should add Leo Strauss to the list above. 3
Read 100 tweets
7 Dec
Carl Schmitt was a Catholic, but his existentialist "decisionism" has more in common with Averroes and Kierkegaard than it does with Aquinas. (Mini Thread)
For Aquinas, reason and faith are cooperative. For Schmitt, the point is that the sovereign decision is not reasoned or reasonable, it's a kind of leap of faith. 2/x
No program or procedure can determine what the sovereign decides. The sovereign has maximal latitude. For Aquinas, reason is a guardrail. The sovereign is subservient to reason. 3/x
Read 7 tweets
7 Dec
Buddhists talk about Enlightenment the way Romantics talk about God the way psychoanalysts talk about the Unconscious: so close, and for that very reason, so far.
One lesson you can draw from this is that all sacred things, all non-goal goals, have a quality of being near AND far, here and gone, easy and hard.
Another lesson is that non-dualists can't help but objectify that which they think eludes and exceeds objectification.

There's no way to talk about ultimate things without turning them into entities.
Read 7 tweets
6 Dec
Leo Strauss, arguing in "What is Political Philosophy?" that the most fundamental meta-political good is the ability to distinguish knowledge from opinion.
The Dude to Socrates:
In taking aim at epistemology, postmodernism destroys the ability to do classical political philosophy.

Yet in replacing the knowledge/opinion binary with interpretation it makes room for something else.
Read 12 tweets
1 Dec
Time for a @threadapalooza on Rabbi Nachman of Bratslav (1772-1810), a mystic and storyteller, who combined spiritual genius with a modernist literary sensibility. Rebbe Nachman is the sage of paradox, a depressive who believed in the liberating power of unreasonable joy.
Rebbe Nachman's usefulness and insight transcends the boundaries of his strict followers, those who tread the earth chanting "Na-na-nachman-M'uman..." Even if you disagree with his conclusions he is the best adversary there is, a formidable critic of intellectualism. 2
Rebbe Nachman (from now on, just Nachman), was the great grandson of the founder of Hasidism, the Baal Shem Tov. Nachman's innovations were many, but to me, the greatest is his use of story or parable to convey his message. 3
Read 100 tweets
30 Nov
Prosperity doesn’t decrease scarcity claims. Arguably, it increases them. What we are supposed to make of these claims is another story. But I would posit a correlation between the proliferation of crypto tokens and anxiety.

H/t @matt_levine
This is all to say I’m launching a coin called $FOMO. There’s only one. But every time you buy it it divides into ten.
Basically, Lessing’s Nathan the Wise was about Judaism, Christianity, and Islam as fractional shares of an NFT, only two were forgeries. Problem is we’ll never know which ones are just JPEGs.
Read 5 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Too expensive? Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal

Or Donate anonymously using crypto!

Ethereum

0xfe58350B80634f60Fa6Dc149a72b4DFbc17D341E copy

Bitcoin

3ATGMxNzCUFzxpMCHL5sWSt4DVtS8UqXpi copy

Thank you for your support!

Follow Us on Twitter!

:(